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As our former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee joins us a host of Huckabee on Fox News Channel in the -- Radio show which begins around the country at the top of the -- Governor Huckabee always great to see you.
As we wait for the president's comments on -- -- he'll be.
I think you'll be asked about it will say.
Top on this issue today what's appropriate response given what we know about this targeting scandal from the president your view.
I think the appropriate response is a criminal investigation because this is not just a minor mistake an apology isn't gonna be satisfactory.
For people to go into.
The records of a nonprofit.
And to target them or political purposes is a criminal activity.
And the IRS can't just say -- -- we're sorry won't happen again cost cuts -- -- ask you something what do you think would have been the reaction on the left.
-- during the Bush Administration it was found out that the IRS.
Was releasing donor information are digging into donor information.
And routinely denying.
Status for -- -- -- Rowell our four Planned Parenthood are for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
We'd still be hearing about it and we should be for that matter who's in office this is just fundamentally wrong.
It seems like that this was widespread enough governor -- had been going on for I had enough for years that.
We would have found out about it by now that these conservative groups that some of these Tea Party groups would have made a bigger stake.
About the -- -- bearing down on them.
Some of them did you know day in and day they were concerned as to why they're applications were being slow walk.
And that's one of the things that cause people to start questioning even a year and a half two years ago as to how come it's taking so long.
And of course the answer was well there's there's nothing going on here no political.
There's nobody being targeted well now we find out that's a great big -- And I think it's going to be so important.
Not just to simply say we're gonna have a self examination that's not going to be enough.
There needs to be a full MRI a government version of an MRI I look at all the way through.
The IRS its processes.
And the original excuse that was made on Friday.
By the person in charge of the nonprofit status Scripps was well this is just a handful of people in Cincinnati doing it turns out it wasn't.
And when the commissioner said no this is actually not happening turns out it was that's why I don't think we can trust the IRS to just investigate itself.
Come back with a little report and -- we fix it everything's just fine it's not find people need to be fired people need to be prosecuted.
Because this is a violation of the trust of the American people it as much as anything.
Because of these reports of how widespread it is that you talked about and because of other conservative media figures rated talk show -- to -- -- -- Saying that they didn't personally targeted by did you have any personal experience with this -- you not only a talk show host and obviously big.
Political figure run for president what happened then and what have you get any personal experience or no.
Well I've hide away in an underground bunkers they can't find his -- last -- -- -- SA good enough I haven't been up until now.
But but my.
Concern is that probably after this conversation with you guys -- I'll probably be audited to my health so thanks a lot -- really appreciate it anytime governors -- You're not no bunker -- -- I've been great this issue earlier governor a bit in -- bit -- -- has a history.
Of political audits of going if you wanna get back to Liz MacDonald has done extensive reporting on this -- backed up.
Candidate Johnson Nixon.
You name -- It was a pull it -- that it was used for political purposes.
We don't really it at this point there's no connection to anyone outside of the IRS in terms of this directive but.
Will anything really ever change within IR us.
Well one thing would change if we got rid of the IRS one of the reasons I'm such a strong advocate for the fair tax which is a tax on our consumption rather than attacks on our income.
Is it it would eliminate the entire IRS agency.
We wouldn't have them and and I -- frankly think that's the real answer -- I know that seems like a far fetched answer to some.
But the fair tax a proposal that's in congress has about forty house sponsors.
Is -- -- not on what we earn our producer what we savor what we invest we would pay a tax when we buy something at the retail level.
Very similar to a sales tax.
And you eliminate all the complexities.
Of these 88000 pages of tax forms that nobody understands and eliminate the lobbying and of course then.
You also eliminate.
Other problems with the IRS snooping on people this when you get rid of the -- you get rid of the snooping.
They go because -- snoopy snooping.
Not a thousand governor twelve billion dollar budget there are a lot of people -- -- since they've been there it's there are the Mike Huckabee show begins -- 120 minutes on some great radio stations all around the country so thanks for a few minutes governor before you start that off.
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