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-- border security and other issue the committee failed to focus on is the cost of amnesty.
Our guest has done the math on precisely that issue says it amounts to -- that fiscal deficit.
Of six point three trillion dollars joining us now the author -- very thorough.
Robert Rector senior research fellow at The Heritage Foundation.
And and it's deja Vu all over again Robert this is we can cast back to 2007.
Kennedy McCain and The Heritage Foundation out with a study.
But as our call it what was that number back that is about two and a half trillion dollar is now -- a -- -- his -- right.
Two point seven trillion this the analysis I did in 2007 which basically everyone agreed with -- I was only on the retirement costs right now I'm doing both pre retirement -- post retirement you know what's happened in the interim.
Government is 40% bigger.
It's unbelievable it is and and that is why this bill is going to just -- and.
Absolute fortune you know I had not thought of it in the way in which you cast the difference between now and 2007.
Immigration so called comprehensive immigration reform legislation saying Kennedy was roll back.
But 40% bigger -- in it's just about six years.
It's an incredible let me.
There's something else going on this time it's fascinating to me.
And that is as you put forward this study.
-- The Americans for Tax Reform -- from our strong.
Vibrant voices of conservatism in the country.
Kato Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform the Club for Growth.
If you go through it.
The the American action forum adults how.
Doug Holtz eakins out that.
I mean they come after you saying you're wrong you're dead wrong and can be wrong -- And and poll -- has got some numbers he says that in fact instead of what you're our including in your report.
He says it would reduce the overall deficit by two and a half trillion dollars.
-- can be Murrow or was -- them back other.
-- weeks I spent six months preparing this report it's about eighty pages long.
The appendix that it describes the methodology of what I did is over thirty pages long so anybody can look in at every detail of my analysis.
-- doesn't actually have a study your reporting basically has a press release about the study -- he might do.
-- he has provided about a page and a half of information.
It's very difficult to assess what he's talking about because it's so.
Hidden in -- -- but one thing I can say about that for example.
He's in his study basically call includes that in immigrant with a Ph.D.
in an immigrant with a fourth grade education.
Both have an equal potent effect in terms of reducing the fiscal deficit and government.
And you know what that's not only wrong it's absolutely stupid.
The reality is that a high skill immigrant one with a college education pays about 30000 dollars more in taxes than they take -- benefits.
But able a low educated immigrant -- one with high school degree or less.
Does exactly the opposite they will take out about 30000 dollars more in benefits than they paying in taxes.
The essence of this bill is that it's saying that it's going to take.
Eleven point five million illegal immigrants who have on average -- and education of tenth grade.
And it's going to give those individuals access.
280 different welfare programs the entire welfare state obamacare which is -- -- cost about 28 billion dollars a year each year for them.
And social security and Medicaid and somehow those individuals are going to pay more in taxes than they take out of benefits.
That is absolutely ludicrous and I have yet to find a common sense -- a normal American who really believes that a person with a tenth grade education.
Pays more in taxes -- take it benefits.
These individuals are going to get about four dollars of benefits for every dollar of taxes they pay during their lifetime.
Overall the expenditures -- on them over the course of their lifetimes.
Will be over nine trillion dollars federal state and local spending they're going to pay about three trillion dollars in taxes every kind of taxes that they pay.
But the net cost the US taxpayers about six trillion dollars that's about a 120000.
Dollars for each upper middle class -- family Robert.
There's something it hasn't changed since 2007.
If I ask you a question I do get an answer -- I have every.
It's good doctors where -- Robert -- -- of other questions about to -- nortel's very well.
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