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-- I'm not looking so -- for the keystone XL pipeline the Environmental Protection Agency bashes the state department's environmental review.
Saying it is insufficient.
And that more research is needed it's a big win for environmentalists.
And a potential threat for president Obama's approval.
Which many were expecting this summer joining me now is North Dakota -- John Hogan.
Who wants the pipeline to be approved.
The EPA's cited environmental concerns rail shipping costs I mean it's a long list cleanup efforts all as reasons not to approve the pipeline how damaging aspects.
Almost it's really hard to understand once again EPA is moving the goal -- the State Department is conducted.
For environmental environmental impact statements and found no significant environmental impact.
Now EPA after the comment period comes back and says -- we want to know what the soul -- cost.
-- greenhouse gas emissions are an all we want to study pipeline safety.
After that's been studied for.
Almost five years.
How big a blow is -- because you sort of expect the EPA to come out be against anything that's fossil fuel to be against a high -- so it's not surprising.
At the same time people are making a big deal out of it does this stop -- in your tracks.
Well that's what we're trying to find out from the administration at the project spend delayed.
Four and a half years.
All of these things have been studied and studied again and they've been found to be non issues that -- to be less environmental impact.
With the pipeline then without -- less greenhouse gas they study pipeline safety.
Like I say it off in an exhaustive way so we're asking the White House.
When are you gonna make a decision they're saying this summer we want verification that us and we're trying to get the project approved congressional.
Yes it does this mean that it's back in the president's court because congress is moving ahead they said they didn't need.
A permit from the president any longer that they were going to be able to just charge forward has that changed as a result of this.
Wow pack the house and it is working on approving a bill that that would provide approval for the passing the -- but provide approval for the project.
In the senate recently -- debt as an amendment attached to the Democrat budget.
I was able to sponsor a memo we got 62 votes in support of the pipeline but the key is that we can move free standing legislation through the congress.
Approving the project without the president.
That's gonna come down to what the Democrat leadership in the senate.
Is willing to let us vote on.
So in the meantime -- Morgan Canada has put together a plan to increase its pipeline capacity in the same region to almost double what it was before.
It's going to be more than what the Keystone Pipeline would transport.
It links Alberta to the Pacific coast and it makes me think that maybe there's an easier way to go about this or maybe somebody else is just gonna get this oil -- All around like you're right on the second point in other words if we don't get this -- this oil's going to China and we're gonna continue.
Import oil from the Middle East Americans don't want to be dependent on the Middle East for their oil and we want the jobs here in America.
This case of a government agency -- fighting against the government cabinet everybody's looks to be in the same administration -- what does this tell you about.
What it should it tell us about the Tug of war that's going on behind the scenes who's winning.
It just doesn't make any sense financials -- economy is struggling to get going because here's a -- regulatory.
Barrier that stopping us.
From producing more energy creating jobs creating economic activity and national security producing our own energy.
Rather than getting it from the Middle East senator Ed what's your bottom line and that's I mean if it were ever gonna see this pipeline if you were a betting man what would you tell our audience.
Right now it appears that the administration is trying to defeated through delay and we're gonna have to get the push on to approve it congressionally.
That's what I'm working on doing OK senator thanks coming on the show we appreciate your time.
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