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-- switching tactics targeting charter schools to refuel their coffers joining me now with the threats unions -- to our -- charter schools.
Bob -- and founder of choice media TV that I think that right Bob Bowden but close enough DR -- US gap right what you're right that they don't -- -- know for a movie -- documentary called the cartel.
Very critical of our nation's schools because -- all kinds of corruption going -- And here we have union suddenly targeting the charter schools why are they doing us.
Well it's that they had kind of have to is where the growth and as you can look at a line of the number charter schools from 1999 to 2013 it just moves straight up less than 2000 charter schools then.
Over triple that almost 6000 now.
Now over two million kids going to charter schools with something like 600000.
On waiting -- go to charter so.
This is what they did didn't let them -- -- -- would -- rated and demean charters all these years and they just.
Can't -- -- -- actually lining up so teachers unions have criticized church schools as you say so.
Quote from CT you had Karen Lewis you said they aren't real schools so if they're not real schools where do you want to teach there.
Article only -- I'd like more clarity from ms.
Lewis -- they're not real children are they not real teachers are they not real principles.
Are the buildings not real what it what it what does an imaginary aspect.
-- to be fair -- fair and balanced they say the teachers are complaining about low pay and long hours what's your response.
Well they can leave and go get other work if they don't like their pay and they don't like their hours so it's just like everywhere else in the rest of society no different than that and that's that's fine it's almost make that -- to share.
-- -- -- say it is it at the beginning of the interview that that number of kids going to charter schools going through the roof here.
What does that tell you about the public school system.
Well a caveat -- -- almost about 5% write it read it there's so what's so when I -- through the roof there's a lot of reform music through the roof there's a lot of reform still to go.
But in terms of the overall picture you know we peace -- our podcast and choice media today about a survey the ACT did.
-- -- high school teachers are most of your kids ready for college when they graduate high school 89% say yes of high school teachers -- -- the college professors.
Our most of the kids incoming freshman ready for college and only 26%.
Say that most of the kids are ready for college so.
If when -- have -- the teacher corps most of them nine out of ten saying he had these kids are ready everything's great everything looks fine to us.
That's an -- you know barometer of the problem.
-- -- -- well if it.
You don't have to look far to see people who weren't happy with the public school system and we certainly hear that from our viewers all the time I've got to think.
What can mean for these charter schools that if if unions come in and organize the teachers.
Are we selling I have like a rules based education system what's gonna happen -- That most mostly I think that's not gonna happen there are a couple of anecdotes of between ten and 15% of -- right now we're unionized and there are some good -- green dot based in Los Angeles.
Is a respected charter school management chain and they -- unionized.
But they're operating in an environment -- almost all the other schools are not -- the other charters that there -- competing for kids with.
And so in that kind of environment it's very different then a traditional.
Public school environment where it's a monopoly OK so you can have one out of ten unionized if they're competing with the nine others that aren't unionized it's a very different kind of union.
That is scenario that we have.
With the traditional tools.
As you as you see this play out over the coming years because I think a lot of people out there think that the only thing that's gonna happen here.
Is that charter schools are gonna gain more and more momentum because at the end of the day it's the parents making decisions right the parents want the kids have better education indeed.
So what have.
Dan rivers not just charters to -- have statewide voucher laws now in Indiana Louisiana a new kind of vouch for just passed in Alabama.
You have city's major cities -- voucher programs like -- -- in Cleveland Washington DC.
School choice is exploding across the country.
In all kinds of ways it's not just charters and -- in in all those ways -- actually forgotten what your question was an important appointment.
About the only here at our school choice that's happening right now.
There are many options many more options now it means just that one get a piece of that -- I got and get you look at states like Michigan that just went right to work they're moving away from union saying with Indiana couple years ago same with Wisconsin under governor Scott Walker.
Well -- let's face it the only area that really site union growth with public sector.
Biggest private sector was always are already on the on the downtrend I'm gonna have to leave it there Bob thanks for coming up pleasure having you know become -- about it thank you.
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