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Do you -- this is two separate issues the president asking too close loopholes in the tune of 580 billion dollars and tax reform and -- revenue neutral way is this as a separate issue to separate fights.
-- tax reform is bigger than just loop holes I mean.
You know if you if you do it piecemeal approach you're not gonna get the kind of strong economic growth that the country needs to see it.
It really is about families and jobs and prosperity and a hundred people.
You get to work and comedy.
Get higher benefit later get their salary increase -- their wages increased.
That's what we need to really get going again and again.
When you look at the fact that we have the lowest workforce participation rates -- the Carter administration.
-- unemployment rate is closer to eleven point 1%.
We need to do something to grow our economy get people hired getting.
We just increased tax reform and -- events are the only thing.
There's a very important significant economic growth after -- six the Reagan years significant economic growth after tax reform and Kennedy years.
Obviously in a 103 we had some.
Economic growth with strong growth after those streets for -- so it's important that we do more than just have one or two.
Aaron provisions in the code there's many of them and we need a broader approach and that's what -- very much work on an engagement that's what my.
Good friend Max Baucus -- the Senate's gonna try to do as well there's a real I heard from people both parties both houses.
There's a real desire to do this and really take and take a real shot -- Legislating in this area so this idea of dealing with preferences outside of -- tax reform processes and somebody supports.
I think -- should all be in tax reform that we should not piecemeal this if you piecemeal and just take one or two provisions.
You may get static revenue -- a little bit of money for one year but you're not gonna get the long term growth that we need to see there are too many kids doing with their parents too many young people who can't get work.
We need to we have a responsibility.
To do what we can to get the economy moving and growing again.
Tax reform office -- that.
You talked about revenue neutrality -- -- with senator boxer chairman baucus and he told the Washington Post later.
That -- wants to get -- of these -- the question is what to do with revenue Republicans want to use it for rate reduction.
Democrats want debt reduction let's postpone a decision on that and work through the code and see how much this base broadening actually gets us.
Does that sound like he's for revenue neutrality -- I'm OK with that approach and include the house -- -- are gonna take different approaches that's not.
Do I mean every bill we do that and have a conference agreement resolves differences.
What's important is that he's engaged in Indian tax reform comprehensive reform for both families and individuals.
And and for business and if we do that.
Wouldn't get America to be the number one growing economy in the world again.
That's what we should try to do that's what are what articles I've seen him do that I've seen you go back and forth a few times the senate.
As have others who work on the hill how much time do you spend with Max -- Well we try to meet regularly and I think that's important so it's an ongoing dialogue and conversation and so we turned -- -- this and other issues if if if the Ways and Means Committee can pass.
Me a tax reform proposal out of committee.
Do you have assurances from the house speaker that it will get a vote on the house floor.
Well the speaker obviously is very committed to tax reform he gave us a child one and that's all -- really need to -- and that means -- the number one priority for the speaker for this congress.
-- our challenges to.
Crafted kind of bill that would get the kind of support that we can move through the house floor and that's obviously the goal I don't want to do -- work and not that is something we can get support for -- I think it's encouraging to see the response from members on both sides of the -- Their interest -- working on this issue that really.
In the idea of a stronger economy is not a partisan issue.
And a lot of members from both sides you know that they're not seeing the kind of prosperity in their districts that that we agency and so they're very decent drive finally get there but it's no.
Guarantee is it to me you still have plenty of support to -- Oh absolutely we're just really -- him.
At the beginning of this process trying to move it forward.
That totally the beginning we've had more than twenty hearings on it already and continue to move forward.
-- it is going to be a process of building the kind of support consensus.
For a comprehensive reform bill that will grow our economy create jobs and you feel Republican leadership is sufficiently behind you I do absolutely.
HR one that's -- you need to know.
The business community senator Portman has done a lot of work on tax reform.
Said that the business community needs to step up.
Do you feel the business community is enough behind you and do you fear that once you do start identifying preferences that need to go.
And it's just gonna turn into I divide and conquer strategy for business.
Well there's always more that people can do.
I'm comfortable with the fact that we've had.
Good attendance -- our hearings this is he's an excellent feedback on various provisions.
They're very well engaged on it.
In world where they're they're meeting with members and explaining.
-- different industries different businesses -- industries have different tax.
Issues and so they are very engaged on obviously hit that process is ongoing so I think it.
Centre court a point and there's a lot they can do and hopefully -- continue to do that.
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