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And -- -- -- what -- have -- the top of the stack this week to Supreme Court spent two days taking arguments about proposition eight in California and don't what the defense of marriage act.
It is thrusts gay marriage back into the headlines and it.
As usually is billed as the left vs the right but.
Remember California is a very blue state -- the people have voted twice in California to define marriage as between one man and one woman so.
Is -- political beliefs or is it really just religious beliefs that separate the country.
Joining -- -- the host of Huckabee in the former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee and governor.
Which -- -- because California the people there have voted along with many other states to say no marriages one man.
Well not only California but states like Maine.
Many other states across the country 31 in fact only one state has actually -- the people vote on this and vote for same sex marriage.
So the numbers are pretty overwhelming now people say -- but if they voted today it might be different well it might be but -- they need to vote again.
And my understanding -- -- -- on the case was it that congress can -- -- aren't they sending it to the Supreme Court.
Want to ask congress to undo what they did -- they think the public supporters therefore not that I'm hoping they do.
But that would be the proper remedy rather than taking this to the Supreme Court.
The right that you made some news this past week about the fact that evangelicals will walk if gay marriage is embraced by the Republican Party explain.
Well I probably maybe misspoke I don't think they will walk I think they'll run.
-- I think I think it's gonna be a disaster for the Republicans -- not that they simply said what we we recognize that many of our constituents many of our Republican Party members.
Happen to be -- we get that we understand but I think if the party.
Attempts to somehow embrace homosexual marriage.
That's going to be a problem and it will cause evangelicals and faithful Catholics to say we're done.
Because you know it's if it's not a political issue.
For many of us this is an issue that is related to our faith and for most of us our -- is a higher value.
Then as our allegiance to the Republican Party what the Republican Party is -- temporal organization our faith is not our of -- Then head of the GOP right Revis was out this week.
And mean was basically saying you know we gotta you gotta get in line here and you who -- takes of of the old testament with a term that he is let's listen.
But my other position is also that you treat people dignity and respect and love and grace.
And so I think they're all compatible.
With each other I just I don't believe that.
You know I don't I don't believe we need to act like an old testament -- -- either.
About those old testament -- Well I I would consider myself a new testament believe -- I believe the words of Jesus who said.
That a man shall leave his mother and father and a woman shall leave her home of the two shall become one flesh that's pretty clear that has nothing to do with the old testament although it is a quote from the old testament.
Further if you look at many passages.
For Christians this is this is not a -- call this is not controversial.
It is neither is it about maintenance you know I don't hate homosexuals I'm not a homophobic.
Now if you want to talk about maybe the highest commandment of all the Jesus gave.
That you treat others as if you want to be treated I might say to some of the more angry militants in the pro gay movement.
Don't be so vicious and vitriolic and try to put people out of business like chick -- every time somebody happens to disagree.
That's not tolerance that's not diversity.
Well gamblers are are you know we'll FaceBook pages are full of those equal signs you know for equality.
Yeah I'm 41 there's there's I'm -- quality I think your gallery quality but under under that the civil law.
Is third solution like the civil unions will that satisfy the evangelicals.
You know the question is will it satisfy those who proposed same sex marriage because historically.
Know a few years ago that's what they said just.
All we want is the same rights to -- -- in the hospital to get pensions that could be accomplished either about power of attorney or if -- you want something more formal civil union.
But if you actually asked them okay is that enough now you hear now we want to be married we wanna have wedding -- we won't have arranged.
We want to be recognized as -- marriage partners well you keep you can't keep changing the goal unexpected came to ever get played.
And so that's part of the problem we don't have a consistent answer.
From the gay community other than the -- keeps getting moved and I think for most of us who are either evangelical -- are -- faithful Catholics.
The issue is that marriage is holy matrimony it is not just a legal function.
And no one has the right to change the definition of marriage if you want to call it something else maybe that's maybe that's you know something to discussed.
But marriage does mean something it doesn't mean everything and once we change the definition Tom.
I don't see how you can keep people from also.
Excepting polygamy and I know that makes many case angry they get frustrated about that.
But why shouldn't you change the definition to accommodate people who in good faith.
Like they do and over a hundred countries on earth practice polygamy.
And say no you can't have that but you can't have.
Same sex marriage which in all of recorded history has only existed in about twelve.
In the entire history of the world.
All right governor Mike Huckabee always good to check in with you thank you so much.
Thank you Tom great to be with you that.
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