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Well if you want more proof of the government's inability to cut spending take a look at the red tape surrounding.
Federal workers making it nearly impossible to fire anybody at all with more on this Tom Schatz.
President of Citizens Against Government Waste Tom welcome -- show always great to have you here.
So I've read these numbers is simply blew me away apparently the federal government in fiscal year -- when he eleven fired only one half.
Of 1% of its workers which is truly surprising when you consider that the private sector fired.
Five times that number what's going on here.
Very unfortunately federal employees are more likely to die of natural causes them to get fired or laid off that's -- -- sir that number is.
-- federal trade commission and the Federal Communications Commission combined 3000 employees between the agencies.
Didn't fire single person.
Small Business Administration.
Six people were laid off seventeen passed -- out of their 4000 employees and next year it's just.
There to help us.
I mean surely some of these people are not performing I mean if the private sector is any.
Any case study at all why can't these people be unloaded.
Part of it is -- process supervisors have said that it's difficult to get through it takes almost a year.
There are appeals hostility from the employees of the rules are very much on the side of the employees -- the merit system.
Merit Systems Protection Board.
Was created to help protect employees mostly because of political retribution that could have come from the heads of the agencies that's really long gone.
What has turned into is just stay an -- extremely difficult process even if someone is performing poorly.
Most times they just end up not firing them and sticking them in a room somewhere -- not giving any responsibility.
It's like a lifetime employment guarantee if you work for the federal government as you said.
Now one example comes to mind you remember the GSA worker the -- into the conference.
And Al and they gifts.
-- retired with full benefits -- not working -- is retired and he's got all the benefits.
And he was not fired either he was.
-- this was a better deal for him to simply retire and collect the benefits he should have been fired.
-- it but again -- the red tape I suppose that's keeping that from happening.
Federal government had in another story that I know you're gonna want to talk about.
Is holding the 55000 to 77000.
Properties buildings space in buildings.
Bitter bake it.
That we're not even using -- why are -- doing this what is the point of that.
Well when you say the range of 55 to 77000.
That's of course one of the problems they don't even know what they own anyone they know they make claims about.
You know facilities being in good shape but.
Government Accountability Office studied 26 buildings a sample of just all the buildings and found 23.
We're completely mislabeled one was rat infested gets that it was in good condition.
And there again the process is so convoluted one mode of federal property.
That it takes sometimes ten years as it did to Celestine plant in Georgetown in DC prime real estate.
But until -- members of congress embarrass the General Services Administration they were keeping it in the federal listen.
I understand they have to give it didn't sell it to another federal agency or maybe even the state I mean this just goes on and on and on.
How much are we paying to maintain these properties.
One point seven billion a year and -- at all.
Yeah I'm President Obama like presidents before him said unload the -- -- We could save eight billion over a two year period and unfortunately that red tape keeps it from happening.
To fix that Tom thanks for coming in tonight really appreciate your time.
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