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-- -- -- But teachers union doesn't like my record.
-- a problem they -- the solution.
They also don't like charter school.
Are way up there are problems.
They don't like -- school champion who wants reform.
It is not -- -- -- doesn't know what real teaching is so does we know this war.
What do what -- you want more money for preschool plug.
It doesn't work we know this school.
You fired feature after one day visit profit.
And why -- the establishment want to close this successful school.
Played so hard to fight back.
Joba the hot like education block.
It's our show.
Lots of schools are just lousy.
Would you do if you were part of the government's monopoly.
One school chancellor fired underperforming teachers that made people Nat concede McMahon misguided and she's done that -- a lot of other people.
She was not trained as a teacher she doesn't know what real teaching is what a terrible choice to lead schools she's also been called the -- lady.
Time it looked like -- which who is this awful person well let's ask her Michel rebound joins us from California.
So you didn't make people -- Yes I -- -- he fired 36 principles 200 some teachers closed schools.
And eventually were pushed out in -- out.
-- Well remember that when I took over the district -- was the lowest performing and most dysfunctional district in the entire country so the things that I did war -- things that I just thought -- obvious.
You know I'm gonna close low performing failing schools would have been failing children for decades I'm going to.
Fire in -- of employees on the -- -- -- be effective ones a lot more money.
That a cut a central office bureaucracy this bloated out of control and half.
Those were the things that I -- new needed to get done if we were ever gonna fix -- system.
And that's when I started getting called -- kinds of McCain's.
You know lead that was you know this terrible.
Person but in my mind it was just trying to bring some common sense to an incredibly dysfunctional system.
And you've heard the phrase the education blob do you think that's fair.
You know there is.
There -- there is.
A an absolute -- -- shot a round -- bureaucracy.
That is the that exists to serve itself and to serve the needs of adults and you know contracts and jobs is opposed to kids the system did not become -- way that it was by accident.
There were people who -- benefiting every single day from that dysfunction they were allowed to keep their jobs there are allowed to keep their contract they were allowed to keep their programs going.
Even though they didn't produce any results for kids because there was no accountability when you brought accountability and -- -- -- And you stop the gravy train for a lot of these people you're gonna get a tremendous amount of push back from -- block.
You move -- started advocacy group called students first inning of a new book called radical.
I don't frankly think -- radical and off based on the standards of this program.
You were certainly too radical for Washington DC.
Andy you were on usual act as a Democrat -- supported.
You oppose vouchers but now you've changed your mind.
You know I and I'm a lifelong Democrat.
And when I was looking eyeball to eyeball with these mothers who wanted nothing more for their kids than what I wanted for my kids which was that they get a high quality education.
I knew that I didn't.
Have spots at a high quality DC public school for their kids to be able to -- and so I thought.
You know what I'm not I'm not gonna stop this person from taking -- 7500.
Dollar voucher which by the way with a lot less than what we're spending per kid.
In the district so that they could maybe go to -- Catholic parochial school somewhere and get a great education I just was not willing to say to those parents.
I'm sorry you're going to have to continue to send your kid to a failing school while I try to fix the system.
And what you're spending and the district is astounding.
DC claims it's about ninety without per pupil the Cato Institute says we're like 29000.
That 700 -- -- classroom where's the money go.
Well this is one of the things that I found was that you know what and you hear this a lot in in the debates about education reform you hear people all the time saying.
What we need in order to fix the system is more money more money.
But the reality is that over the last two to three decades in this country we have more than doubled and almost tripled the amount of money that we are spending on public education per child.
And yet the results have remained pretty much stagnant until we fix the foundational.
That ailments system.
That more money and more investment is not gonna produce better results we have to fix the laws and policies that govern how schools are run.
And and whether or not we're putting kids interest before -- interest and only after we fix.
Those those laws and policies will -- an additional investment result and better outcomes for kids.
I would think fix there would mean more competition your group has already -- laws passed in that direction you've lifted the charter school cap and Michigan.
Good luck to you thank you Michelle Marie.
One of the union leaders who says she is evil is the head of Newark, New Jersey teachers' union Joseph del Grasso.
The top of the show you -- -- meeting attacking charter schools he also doesn't like for profit competition.
Hello I'm John Wall Street not broad street.
-- got a lot of applause for that -- thanks for joining us also here is Bob Bowden an advocate for school choice he.
Made a movie about education called the cartel.
I Joseph he says you're basically a cartel dislike a conspiracy.
Of people trying to.
Prices up competition.
Now you're wrong about that why would I want to keep competition.
Do William descended on the clip you said that then it's me but -- -- -- it's bad.
I said that I don't like for profit education.
That has nothing to do.
-- school -- wants to compete with school B is nothing wrong with that so not a problem need nonprofit chargers -- in a way nonprofit private schools are okay for a voucher.
But according to you it's nonprofit it's okay I'm not for religious institutions be involved in public education.
Now if you want something different for your child like my mother did for me.
Find another job.
And get it for your -- a few words yeah right at school correct but I went toward an officer David if you add it all agree if you have money people of option deficit for -- gets -- to address they can even move to a better correct right but if you don't have money.
Your view is the really should should be no other options apart from new republics that's -- you should be stuck and trapped there if you want out too bad.
Why you have the money you just got to -- if you were a responsible.
You would make sure that that school.
In that community works you do how would you do that if you go to school board and they ignored that's management politician would -- -- they need more unions which I agree about.
That's a good I don't remember saying that.
But if the -- -- says I wanna go to this other school because the school -- failing my kid or maybe it's an okay school -- our specialty school would do better for my kid I wanna take that tuition money and leave.
With that -- national problem and go elsewhere you -- -- as you can afford it you can do what they think you -- why can't the seventeenth Al that we spend to send kids to your Newark's schools why isn't.
Fifteenth now -- -- I have never called the police in my life.
Can I get my money back.
I've never called the fire department.
Could I get my -- you're just let me -- probably goes you got if it if Newark where there are a number of murders and shootings every day.
If I had enough money.
Can I say to mayor mr.
mayor I don't want to use the police force give me the money and -- hire my own.
-- -- -- Why can respond okay this is what brought -- we are no reasonable ways to pick your -- police force there are reasonable ways to pick your -- schools and have the money follow the kid.
If you don't want that to happen for one well we -- most of those schools aren't unionized and Arnold Dow does that those school that has nothing to do would it because really.
We have charter schools.
That use my union -- because we had a resource center.
Free I don't care whether they joined the union or not that has nothing to do what I'd really prefer not having charged in support -- -- of charter schools in New York.
Ones that work.
What I can't support is the fact that we have charter school.
That are not working and we don't hold accountable if the charter doesn't work it and in this competition.
-- it's a bad one.
Why would parents -- it would just go out of business that was the market working not really the way it works -- people that's the way couldn't work if if he didn't have all these controls didn't work that way that would be fine but unfortunately it doesn't we have a chart is when you stop it from working by not allowing for I don't competition.
Well for profit why should education come down to a profit because everything that we would have -- way help change the whole world and loses -- I mean come out.
I don't think I lose my sold by having TV station and -- and -- -- who close they give money there right thing to me.
Anyway but what I'm trying to say is that.
Public education is the last bastion of democracy when you walk into the door of -- -- good performing public school.
There's no religion.
You're not supposed to hear about.
The Democrats the Republicans.
Would get the -- You're there to get -- the American dream.
An education that's supposed to talk about American values and and deliver a quality education that's what -- for.
Pay much I much of the rhetoric is that him and I talk at each other when really we should be speaking together about how do you -- moved to new group of -- -- -- illustrates just tell our quick secret here here's the secret.
He wants it looking like the real issue here risk corporate take corporate rising privatize -- is against public schools.
With these corporate people aren't his problem it's -- increasing numbers.
And hundreds of thousands more every year of mostly black and Hispanic parents who want out of his schools they want -- help signing up for -- -- they want vouchers.
-- let's just take a brief break from the -- discussion to my favorite part of Bob's movie called cartel.
This is one where you guys may agree a former school principal says you can judge -- school district by the number of fancy cars in the administration's parking -- Behind them a Mercedes-Benz parked on that the worst school district -- So Bob what's your point.
Well the fact is as we're often told that there's just not enough money -- public education hasn't Shelby was talking.
And that in fact confined places like like -- it's over 20000 dollars per student being spent 400 -- per classroom.
We need to live via god -- -- actually played but it didn't wait it out.
If if doesn't well yeah I don't work teachers no absolutely not -- may.
Boy oh boy for what to me if I mean that will be magnificent just disappears in the government and its its worst and that when you really think -- it we're talking about.
A school district whose budget.
It's the same is run -- a city a billion dollars now where that money goes it's certainly not in the pockets of teachers.
-- the custodians or anyone that no there there's no get rich scheme for a teacher.
If what you get up to it if I have to look at it -- troops there is a lot of weeks -- time.
And it's tax Payer money and attitude she knew it and we're out of time we agree hip hop heads surely they'll -- so thank you Bob thousand.
Now I should say the problem of American.
Schools it's not just skills schools schools are often -- states don't have strong unions.
The problem is that government monopoly -- establishment that fights change reformers call it double.
It's like this lobbying job for the hot thing that can't beat -- The blob is the teacher's union janitors unions the politicians the school board bureaucrats and if you try to make you change the -- says.
We don't do that here we after requisite -- downtown we got here 45 people to sign off the deputy director -- have to say this is okay it's crazy.
It is crazy and now it looks like the blob is about the -- some of the best schools in California why would they do that the best one.
You've heard plenty about America's lousy schools but there are some independent public schools that do really well.
One chain of three schools in California takes kids for the poorest neighborhoods and teaches them so well that those kids prosper.
The schools were created by a guy named bench -- -- what I say give me the worst school in Oakland.
Black Mexican polka -- give us the worst school anywhere in America and will take it and will what will outperform.
The other schools in five years bench Davis created them that the American Indian public -- school.
Right in the heart of a rough neighbor these are hard workers here.
The kids and American Indian schools now have some of the highest scores in California.
You -- do that in the same amount the state gives every school.
We get less.
We get less than every other school the kids in American union.
Public charter schools are scoring so far above.
The average for the state for public school children.
That there isn't even a word for you're -- American Indian they pay some kids to tutor other for a -- hi our our students and we paid him.
They're excited they're gonna make some money.
She davis' politically incorrect.
-- And this isn't this.
He's been criticized for imposing strict rules you got trouble that you boy.
-- stick because they really wants to succeed.
A teacher made this student do -- in the hallway because he didn't follow directions to actually have to try hard when you're here at -- school.
Wind how this much homework but I think on -- -- corner Kevin Healy at six subjects of homer and -- the teachings were a lot in there and he.
Meaner and yet no students been expelled since the school began in 2000.
No -- I love who us.
I love the kids -- get in trouble.
Because you could take a key items that lack of -- or gets in trouble.
And use them as an example it scroll your critics say we have a sixth grade student acts up in class he'll be set to sit on the floor.
In an eighth grade class.
Yes that's true in investment cute people in line -- -- we want to admit it or not even gym class street.
School weekly gains every every PE but here it's time -- running for ten minutes or running around the block you fire people after school.
He should be fired you fired teacher after one day she is incompetent.
You could -- in one day here she is incompetent.
Attitudes like that don't sit well with the -- Firing teachers partying students provocative racial comments and they -- -- -- illegally profited from the school.
The plot doesn't like for a and so the Oakland school board may revoke American Indians charter -- held here.
About that last week prop -- is there are a lot of people that have no interest in children.
We can take this pool back into the -- and back into the public's fear keep it intact and -- you -- -- going forward.
Our special correspondent Kennedy was at that hearing -- back -- the public umbrella sounds like the -- just wants to.
Take over an independent school.
Yeah and the glob wants control and really hates economy and -- -- teachers unions and of course it's all about money.
Yeah they don't want charter schools to make a profit but at the same time.
If those kids go back into the Oakland unified school district open is going to get millions of dollars from the state and the federal government at -- hearing some people who liked the -- spoke to.
Please do not just scoop up all I -- They're lucky to have such a great school so please don't take that away from -- Yeah you always suspended always -- Not -- your day -- got up and Denis Collins yes it did and did -- Yeah yeah.
Yeah I don't know.
Yeah your -- -- -- -- They did let him finish -- -- also interviewed some parents and students who defend bench -- Where -- eat my Mexican.
No matter what he thinks that everyone can do it.
And he will make you realize that you can do at the end you realize that you did it silent failure right I can do it.
I love -- school my daughter is doing great at school I think she'd spend the night if the school.
When the boarding school when I think about the controversy surrounding school.
I think it's a bunch of BS open should really be ashamed of themselves -- one of the best schools and one of the best things that's ever happened to Oakland.
And how is it that they're willing to close our school.
Out they're not just appreciate us they are threatened but -- us did some things that might have broken the rules that he made.
-- -- and and there are a lot of accusations of impropriety and -- it's maybe -- deeply flawed man.
But the schools work and that's what the parents are fighting for and that's what we all what we want the very best education for our kids and that's what gets lost.
And the argument.
And the kids you interviewed they went on dead good colleges -- let's Berkeley -- three of those kids graduated from those schools Dartmouth -- Berkeley in three years.
Because of what they're of their training -- American Indian yes because they had so much emphasis on math and literature.
They spent so much time and that's classes and they finish their -- their college level courses in high school.
So they do a good job Kenny.
Can close one big reason people want to close the schools as they just don't like -- Davis.
This plan helps rock and -- this is school and yet he says things like this about -- He's like a monster all right no one likes and why they won't oppose the school was about -- is -- Paris he was a blessing when he established school.
Is occurs when -- comes and I hate to say that but this is the true.
-- -- The monster when we return will meet that cars he is here.
We just told you but bench -- founder of three California charter schools for six -- Teaching kids peoples that couldn't be -- but.
Despite the success of his -- despite having some of the best test scores in California.
The Oakland school board now may -- the schools down.
Then basically this is -- people don't like you -- yes they hate me.
And many also say you did some.
Illegal profit making things -- can you believe that in America you should make a profit.
Well I educate kids let's bringing your opponent Troy Flint speaks for the Oakland board Ben is here with me.
What that -- the school should be closed because of him.
The school should not be be close because of savings.
This school should be close because there's an egregious conflict of interest.
That's resulting in almost four million dollars being stolen from -- tax what do you mean stole.
The money has been misappropriated.
For personal use.
Funneled through contracts.
In two businesses.
In which they say this -- have an ownership interest if our American Indian.
Implements the proper reforms.
And deals with the conflict of interest we would be happy to see the school kept open under -- responsible fiscal management entity.
But haven't they already done what you want he's off the board.
He's off the board but he's inserted figure heads.
We need to see a third party entity that will come in it and apply generally accepted accounting principles and stop the history of fraud.
I history of fraud -- -- you commit fraud.
Some of the specifics.
You charged -- to the school because you on the property the -- too high your company did construction jobs and was paid -- -- -- I don't rebuilding.
I charts -- dollar and nine cents a square foot.
Some charter schools in the city are charging our -- a two dollars a square foot.
You paid your wife -- ushered -- -- accountant 150000 dollars a year for her company she also did other charter schools.
Now at the that led to hot the next bid was for 300000.
Dollars I saved the school -- 150000 dollars.
Now they don't use our anymore they're paid and a quarter of a million dollars of -- a year who's written off the tax -- you.
Incurred charges -- your personal card credit card that was paid by the school.
Listen what happen is -- credit card.
-- Was they it was over extended it could use it secretary on several occasion -- to use my credit card let's get it right.
Charges were made a turn in my credit card to school accidentally paid -- my car charges 2000 exact 2045 dollars exactly.
I reimburse the school data until that part of the story also use words like stolen out of stolen I'd die mr.
play it and you know it's all a bunch of rhetoric no weapon as a matter of fact -- -- what it'd definitely.
Give him a chance to respond.
Go ahead Troy.
Anyone with an interest in viewing the facts can go to the Oakland unified school district website and review the report.
The appendix does contain checks it contains snapshots of the financial accounting.
It's all very clear it's not just Oakland school board that's saying this.
If I -- -- -- county superintendent of schools it's -- California Department of Education that has found these violations.
These -- three distinct entities it seems very quick today and told that all these people from Sacramento to Oakland people who aren't even involved -- open schools on a day to day basis are coming into the same conclusion.
But they're all part of what I call the education blob that I guess what I wonder is.
Maybe he's an awful person and maybe he made a profit that he shouldn't -- -- -- But the kids didn't and we got about making a profit John with all due respect it's about breaking a bomb locked in -- pursuit of profit but I would -- even distinction why would -- even talk about closing the school win for less money per student.
They do so well US news and world report ranks them number one in Oakland.
You've got your district which is millions of dollars in debt I would think.
American Indian is are the good guys and Europe the -- The students at American Indian the teachers and the families are the good guys.
The people above them in the administration.
Who are taking advantage of their desire to have a good education to enrich themselves -- violation of the law.
Are the bad guys you have to separate the two.
Thank you Troy Flint.
-- -- you don't deny that you have a really big ego that your megalomaniac a monster and a curse -- yeah all of those.
And I not educate kids.
Oh yes indeed does not they've ripped off the taxpayer but now -- -- -- -- off these guys you know I understand the hate competition.
I don't -- -- at school.
What they're trying to do is they're using me to close to school.
Thank you bench -- School board will make a decision in a couple weeks.
Coming up universal preschool.
That sound warm and Fuzzy.
But next to kids even -- school this fourteen year old -- go to school.
We talk to him next.
But some parents don't fight the education -- they escape -- pull their kids out of school and teacher -- home.
Home schooling was once -- usual but as more people realize how bad the government monopoly is -- left it.
One and a half million Americans are now home school most of the college most do better than the other kids count so.
How does home -- work.
Well some parents act like teachers in the classrooms restructured but some have no rules -- Let their kids learn almost entirely on their own it's called -- schooling.
It's getting more attention fourteen year old Jude staffers Wilson's on school and Amy -- on schools her kids although her kids that wanna -- -- TV so.
-- what you what you on school what puts it meet.
And it really means learning without a curriculum learning through your life learning to things that motivate you internally things that you're interested in.
When I would've just watch TV all -- and tell her.
Well you know what maybe you would have watched TV all day for awhile.
But my kids know that I trust them they know that they can pursue their interests and they really make good decisions about what they do during the day your son is playing mind crap right he's so that's the big thing right now -- -- craft which is a video.
Program where you can build things you learn about different building materials and how to set up.
Pistons and circuits and can't you create this whole.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- They can do that if they wanted to you but generally speaking you know and they do sometimes of course but but Connecticut -- after awhile.
-- what what do you do I basically do what normal kids do.
But not really -- and -- mile and don't to worry that you're not gonna learn the stuff you need to learn to succeed no I mean.
What do what do you thing I -- -- to succeed.
Math and English island matting Allen Matt Allen English and this how.
I read I -- at act as I said -- -- -- socks off the -- -- -- And why if I hate it when I was your age I -- And I hated school I would have done -- -- -- I I never fit -- school it was -- me.
It was never me.
On school there's no defendants -- me I could not too many left school -- twelve yes there.
And there were discipline problems at the school so New York City school -- is home school yet.
People in on your father's side of the family say things like what about the SATs -- It insists it's.
I don't like that mean.
Why what about the SET what about the SATs why does one running to be tested to go to college I mean I wanna go to -- and -- -- -- wanted to -- from the 54050.
I don't know.
I would also say that there are a lot of colleges.
That has specific admissions process -- for home schooled kids.
Some of them don't require they SATs others do but it's only a small part of what they look at.
A lot of these kids put together portfolio's and they they.
Dating show this.
Projects they've done places they work that's my plan.
You know books they've read and the university is really get a Fuller picture of what the kid's life is like and and as you said they love -- cricket council could generally do very well in college people saying they won't know let's socialize their home alone.
Well adult scene now I have to ask okay you wanna -- first go first look at.
That's -- -- That's a big man -- in in homes going in fact the reason my husband and I decided to home school was when -- -- family with kids and they were amazing socially and that was the first thing I noticed.
That's how well they.
Fit in a matter where they were with with adults with kids their -- they -- it's.
They live in the world I mean you know within nowhere in the world are you segregated.
By -- Except in school every three months you have to send a report to the state the parents yes of parents and to say what we're still here and he can multiply.
Yeah basically is tell them what we've been doing -- schoolers it's a bit more free form obviously then someone following a curriculum.
For myself I keep kind of a daily journal of what we've been doing.
And then I put that into a report that that I know -- satisfy the state regulations.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nuclear actually write a -- People say this is a religious thing and many home schoolers are devout Christians are -- I'll take this on I'm not I'm not religious at all.
I hope I don't and offend anybody but -- It I'm not religious and I and kind of thing gets another -- that she said as when he said it's not social.
It's not vote strictly -- started that way but less so gaffe over time he really give you the last four.
And it's just look at this must this sounds weird to people.
It does I know -- debts but it's really natural if you think about it where all self directed learners at birth.
Nobody teaches us how to walk with the curriculum nobody teaches us.
Speaking with kids grow up and bilingual households have no problem taking on two languages.
Only at the age of five do we suddenly decide that everything has to be.
Forced -- -- and learning has to be a forced situation -- somehow magically they'll stop learning on their own and that's just not the case.
Thank you Amy and shoot good luck -- -- thinking care coming up my president says the way to improve education is for government to offer more school earlier.
After all everyone.
Head start has been such an extraordinary success over all these years.
I thought itself.
When we come back.
Tonight I -- working with states.
To make high quality preschool available to every single child in America.
-- Why not make sense stardom early who doesn't want more education for kids.
And my president says -- states offer preschool like Georgia.
Studies show students brought more likely to read and do math at grade level.
Graduate high school -- the job we know this works.
So let's do what works.
Well yes but.
What does work Stephen Barnett of the national institute for early education research says the president's right and universal preschool would be a great thing.
-- Darcy Olsen of the Goldwater institute also research preschool -- and found.
-- -- -- -- It doesn't work.
Really it doesn't work it must work you stardom early must.
Get something out of it.
Well you know this about a lot more fairy tale and -- facts and when you look at the head start program and you look at all of the research that has been dying including looking at the students in Oklahoma in Georgia.
You find that they might have a few gains in first grade but by -- second or third grade.
They look no different than students who haven't been to preschool at all and in fact some children come away with -- behavioral.
Now with Stephen this is what -- did leak out when I read about this because it's just intuitive.
That preschool and programs like head start.
Should help and you say they -- but the president's own Education Department found oops no lasting benefit.
They found the benefits were smaller than expected from head start.
But had started doesn't have all the things.
High quality program so they have great success in Georgia and Oklahoma.
The Oklahoma has pretty good success.
Georgia has some success and it turns out compared to what they spend on it probably enough to generate a positive benefit cost ratio.
Part this is why I don't get you say success from what I read Georgia started -- -- twenty years ago you'd think they'd be leading the nation now in the goals.
They're not no gains by fourth grade.
The goals lower teen birth rates raise graduation rates fourth grade reading scores close the minority achievement gap.
None of these states have done it.
Stephen I know your group at Rutgers gets money from the Education Department but I assume your objective about this.
You see failure after failure the country's going broke.
But you want to spend more money -- -- -- -- country can't afford not to spend money on this the reason we're going broke.
Is the high costs of things that are avoidable and can be prevented by -- education.
Stephen isn't it true though that we do pretty well in fourth grade and reading we fall behind by -- created by twelfth grade we're way -- Well of course by talk Craig you're not talking about the same kids we get -- for those fourth and eighth graders to get the twelfth grade.
And let's see how they do then -- your turn.
Well I just think this whole thing is and is really ridiculous and I think what parents got out there really need to know is that.
Preschool is not gonna get your child and -- Harvard and it's not gonna keep your child out of jail in America when children enter kindergarten.
That this is the department of education's own data that they have all of the qualities that kindergarten teachers -- are important they're enthusiastic they're eager to learn -- good health.
They know their ABCs and their numbers.
And that's because parents know best they're using right now a variety of ways to teach their children.
Summit Hong -- Montessori program summoned church day care facilities.
Parents know what -- individual children need and they're doing a great job getting them ready for school.
-- in our later years that we have the problems and that's where we need to focus school reform I just want parents out there to know that in preschool is not a silver bullet and -- you you know for a preschool to be beneficial to your child -- have to be better than the setting that they're currently -- So if that preschool is better than you're doing at Palmer better than a situation you've got your kids and take advantage of it but if -- keep doing what you're doing.
And it's a bigger question.
How should taxpayers pay for all this thank you Darcy and Stephen.
Coming up Cuba that teachers union said give us a chance to run a school we can do better and they got a -- -- what happened.
We'll tell you there.
When those union teachers showed up outside my office to yell at me they said teachers need more money.
If teachers were valued and paid lawyers executives results and be better.
Many people believe that.
-- -- -- America has spent more much more we've tripled spent -- per student since I was in college so blue line on the chart triple.
But student achievement in math reading and science they didn't improve at all.
So what happened all the money.
We don't know.
The government monopoly the blob squanders money in Los Angeles they spend half a billion dollars to build this school.
The most expensive one in America.
They planted palm trees -- elegant landscaping.
Put in this beautiful swimming pool even a theater called the coconut grove modeled after a night club.
Very nice but education.
Not so nice that school graduates just 56% of its students.
The schools in Oakland the bench -- started -- artist's fancy.
The students do better they get top test scores so what is the education blob -- to do shut his schools down.
Those teachers protesting me for my stupid in America shows said union teachers are the solution.
When I complained about stupid union rules they said no our rules are good and necessary.
And if cities would let us -- let us train and evaluate teachers we do a great job we have the expertise -- Intelligence.
To be able to do what works for children.
Now although there union doesn't like charter schools they say.
If you have charters they union could create a school where every parent would want to send their children.
We welcome the chance to -- but what this union can do said the union.
And they started union school the union boss called it an -- races.
What what happened.
The teachers unions school is one of the cities were Hearst.
It got a -- on its report card from the city only a third of its students reading -- left.
And the school lost a million bucks.
But it's -- unions model school.
The union knew everyone was watching I assume they staffed it with some of their best teachers but they still failed -- -- I really want to ask them about that but they won't come on this program.
By contrast some charter schools that the union fights do wonderful things.
I visited a fourth grade class in Harlem and found a school that makes learning fun.
I told the kids.
School is boring and meeting is weren't letting him run in all -- rock and Austin.
In these kids -- school that is common and how -- -- fungal or.
-- -- just end up on what they see you guys look forward to going to school in the morning he.
Your interest in math and yet very little.
That charter gets top test scores -- it spends less money per student.
How would not all charters are great -- -- worse than a regular school but that's okay.
If it -- bad it fails it goes away.
That's what brings improvement by contrast for years the government monopoly schools the -- schools never close kids were trapped.
The beauty of charters or vouchers or tax credits for schools is choice.
And now at least some parents can pick the school they think best and -- -- -- they can take their kids elsewhere.
That -- petition the beginning of a free market.
Will make schools better.
And that's our show.
We'll see in.
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