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-- what we know gambling.
The big buys and the advice they hear.
Where does some of the big money go we know gambling sports and now one of the sports obviously is boxing.
But it's not just casinos that are making money boxing itself is a big business altogether.
Join me now welcoming the oldest boxer to ever win a major boxing title he broke his own record Senator Kerry boxer Bernard Hopkins -- -- welcome to the show welcome thank you.
First thing I that I watch the fight.
I I didn't -- I did not expecting to win the fight.
Only not because the skill -- anything else just because -- -- father time production how do you keep beating these young ones.
Well one father time I'll talk to -- off than you think and now we have we have a relationship by this it that way where I get this extended found strategy.
Great plan which is -- you know.
Always say you have a -- planned in human condition in -- -- he's ready and you're going to do what you gotta do but it did you know what I look at a younger guy -- -- fight.
They have an upper hand because it -- But just like any businessman and it has an experience over.
The young businessmen.
It's something that the young businessmen haven't lived long enough to experience in witness -- that comes in time.
-- -- speeded up you can't slow it down is -- a timing issue.
And time is undefeated with everybody.
Has sought -- use all those state that this mentioned to you have to master plan together in this tape you're young guide to school -- that a -- and Heath.
Now one of the reasons that you become very very -- because you were always -- And and you -- me.
Have something of a chip on your shoulder legal you know because Roy Jones got all the press image -- calling for some reason got the limelight before you -- But even goes back -- -- and at the audience should know that you that you went to prison.
Five years up from seventeen.
Until in my early adult years.
1988 -- return into society with a nine years spent a role probation.
And never look back everything in the -- jobs and -- -- -- -- bottom let you said that because as you relieving you said the warden told you UB Hawkins.
You gonna wind up back here he told you that in this article throughout but I never forget that in.
Yes and it was a thing where at nine out of ten he's right with both people to leave unfortunately.
But it's up -- guy who was.
Being different and do different things -- -- sobbed on net in my mind efforts.
Would organize perfected it.
And know what.
Even try and indoor in the right thing early or a loss in the first place.
Which with the tests who tuned to weather out with sincere.
About -- back go to -- and and who.
And do nothing about it.
Or -- go and try again fifteen months later window in between 1988 may when a loss corporate fight the Clinton that you must remember to name.
With fifteen months of finding my way to -- left all go wrong way and I chose to go the life.
-- that was up in part because you had a real close relationship with your mother you talk about a lot.
Now you did maker promise yes -- you're gonna stop fighting a forty yeah 48 listen.
I'm just afraid -- ultimately getting hurt but you're not fighting for the money anymore -- No no I've done a great job.
Earlier on London about money -- about saving and also told my fourteen would order -- beforehand.
And if you -- -- The right way -- -- to put up moles and you spend US have would call it insurance at the end of the day and and -- live by that model -- live by that you know no matter how much you have is great.
But of you'll have.
-- -- -- last long within your your your life right.
So we've -- most cases so.
But you're Smart because we were just talking before the -- when you sat down you actually you know -- Philly -- 100% Philly we -- -- Philly -- often you okay because I don't.
But you actually moved go to Delaware officially yes because it before he became can't knowing that one did you would be -- one day you make a lot of money but you don't want Uncle Sam at that most them.
Exactly up to device for Mya mired by business people and -- know whose -- numbers and it almost didn't hit with so many other things in Philadelphia.
Taxes and I love Philly but the business structure didn't suit me and I had a choice in the state.
And go to Delaware all go to Vegas aboard -- Miami because in my occupation.
I chose Delaware.
We don't have a lot of time left we started this off before the interview talking about the NFL trying to do things for the players here -- -- your said weighing from being a fighter to being a promoter.
Obviously boxers most -- in the broke the overwhelming majority are you as a promoter do you feel like that's going to be part of your role to make sure that they do the things you did.
Maybe set up a pension system what's gonna help these fighters coming up now on that in that broke.
We'll -- -- -- promotion which I'm part of the part -- the memorial myself and Richard -- -- -- -- -- different in the other mortar is let him know that steady bond rose Royce get out of your apartment.
The steady buying -- pace that is.
No value towards the -- you do you personally but no value to -- you paid for tomorrow so yes we have to be the first.
And box and -- we have to say -- you wanna make money when you talent it.
But it is glad to be smarter to even keep it.
And so to me a Smart way to make money.
Person -- can make money by hit the lottery but if you're not savvy enough to know how to keep money.
That's when the fight really starts.
All right Bernard against.
I love you before you came on -- -- even more present in congratulations to -- Don't get heard about them men don't get -- at -- -- -- -- -- of -- -- sort of and I am a bad thing elbowed him what you did get a little left there was an album.
Thanks a -- Bernard Hopkins -- Europe they have.
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