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Well now has markets just mentioned democratic congressman Ed Markey of Massachusetts introducing a bill to stock passengers from carrying knives on planes joining me now.
Republican congressman Michael -- of New York he is co sponsoring.
The no knives act Michael welcome back to show it's great to see you here -- out.
Everything that your sponsoring this does not surprise me because you used to work for the FBI nearly law enforcement I don't think anybody ever leaves that behind once you've been and that life.
What do you think the risk of knives on plane would be.
Well I think we've already seen it you know not only was I -- more enforcement phenomenon around and first responder.
And it's someone that lives in Staten Island and probably represents the amount we lost more per cap -- First responders firefighters in particular than any other -- This is near and dear to my heart you were talking before about bombs and so on.
Let's remember -- we have to remain vigilant because the plane itself became a bomb.
After it hit the trade -- the trade center.
You know all that fuel that fire it -- basically created a bomb that brought down the trade -- so.
Book what did they use the they used.
Knives and things like that I can tell you -- well trained.
Okay I've had training with the United States Marine Corps and with the FBI you give me a two inch blade someone that's well -- -- can to a lot of damage and again.
Alabama -- the likes to -- -- of Michael is ahead you know I can't get a knife that I'm showing our viewers right here this is a Swiss army knife and it seems to me.
I can do a lot of damage with us on a point this could be dangerous this could be a weapon I just don't understand how you can say it's not weapons.
But that's that's why I don't understand the decision was made unilaterally we -- talked -- about the flight attendants.
How about the pilots and how about the aviation security advisory kept committee.
They do this stuff this.
They're they're they -- stakeholders in this that should've had.
A word and I guarantee you had they had their voices heard in this debate they would have explained why this is just simply a bad idea -- I understand.
A lot of time is passed and people are forgetting.
I'm never going to forget the widows in Staten Island the children growing up put out their fathers that -- firefighters.
They're never going to forget we do not need to ever really -- this anywhere in the country let alone in New York but anywhere in the world it is a bad idea.
To allow weapons on planes period end of discussion.
You know the TSA is sponsoring this -- -- right.
They also have the support of the -- the Republican chairman of the house homeland security committee.
How was -- possible that they -- -- other folks into this idea that we can have knives on -- look Michael I talked to people on the street today from Nebraska.
From New York.
-- All over the country.
NA -- with one voice this is a bad idea do you think you can stop it.
I do you know I was the lead Republican on a letter to the TSE explaining exactly exactly where I just mentioned to you.
An end and asking them to reevaluate this -- it is a bad idea and look.
I think that there's so my colleagues.
That at first thought with thinking it wouldn't be problem but I think a lot of them starting to second guess that it actually is the resurgence talked to people.
White flight attendants like pilots quite like the security council for aviation.
They're realizing on the it probably isn't a good idea and at the end of the day where's the benefit from the that's that's what I would its intention to -- the cost and benefits that we know.
Inside because we what we -- the downside we know the downside is that a catastrophe can hit so where's the benefit I don't think there is any and that's why I really think that this is a cut and dried.
Right common sense should prevail and I think the TSA will get the message loud and clear how many continuing those efforts not only would -- -- bill in my letter but I'm gonna continue to speak to members and put pressure on the TSA to simply make the right decision.
Congressman Graham come back when you have an answer for a certain interest fit very much in this story -- thank you so much appreciate it.
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