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Joining me now former CIA operative -- head of the bin Laden tracking unit Michael's lawyer Michael welcome to you why would thank you Karzai.
Suggests something as ridiculous as the US colluding with Italian back.
-- I think I think he's in a tough place -- he's got no power in Afghanistan when we leave.
He's gonna have an awful lot of problem with his allies with the northern alliance and he's kind of been exceedingly unstable personality he really did I think is out of his water is -- country's leader.
But that you know we may well be colluding with the Taliban in the sense that we be talking to them to protect ourselves when we withdraw.
But to say we're we're engaged in a committee more violence with them is just a lunacy.
Defence secretary chuck cable his inaugural outing greeted by suicide -- What message and that.
While the message and that is that we've been defeated in Afghanistan is in when the president decided he was -- with dropped by a date certain.
He he admitted defeat the -- see things very black and white and what they see.
Is -- the Americans.
And so they were giving that giving.
A demonstration on what's to come to the Karzai government once we're gone.
Is that what the Afghanistan's Karzai wants the US out or is this a play to keep the US presence there and the US financial -- well I think.
It's it's very it's very difficult to tell what he -- it seems -- change from time to time I would think it's more important for the American people to get what they want.
Surely there's no reason for any American to ever have died in Afghanistan for the sake of Afghan freedom.
We went there to destroy our enemies the Taliban and al-Qaeda.
We failed to do that.
And were only in the country now because President Obama wants to be analysts say on the eve of the next congressional elections that he pulled all the boys out from a from Afghanistan.
I think the American people really ahead.
Loose clock here we've been defeated in that country and in the Muslim world it's gonna have a galvanizing effect.
Justice the defeat of the Soviets had a galvanizing affect -- Osama bin Laden.
Well given his history of being sympathetic to the Middle East.
Perhaps secretary bagels the right person to smooth this over make it not a failure.
For the US and others that did that there's the only thing that wins in Afghanistan is the person with the most force.
And Innophos -- goes in there he has to kill as many of the enemy as he can and then get out very quickly I think we -- didn't killed almost no one in state for twelve years to try to create -- democracy where it was impossible to do that.
Very -- you wanna ask you about North Korea meanwhile North Korea scrapping the armistice that ended the Korean War.
UN sanctions and you've got 101000 South Korean troops 3000 American troops doing drills is war in the -- how serious is this threat from North Korea.
That's when you've got -- -- on ma'am I I think that country is a little bit beyond the -- of being able to rationalize your way through a problem.
It it seems to me that it's suicidal for them to attack anyone but it at the same time.
That's another unstable leader and and if he's willing to.
Excuse me if he's willing to elite try to alienate his Chinese supporters who are the only supporters on -- I think he's very much a wildcard plea provided us fascinating analysis tonight Michael Sawyer thanks to -- acts thank you can't remember -- much.