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Former Sen. Byron Dorgan, (D-ND), and former Sen. Bob Bennett, (R-Utah), on the negotiations over a budget and spending cuts.
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But the scare tactics and work but looks like the -- tactics might.
Because now senate Republicans are open to working with the president after getting wined and dined by the president.
And many of the GOP a worrying that means they'll join John McCain and Lindsey Graham and being more open to more revenue.
Former democratic.
He says more revenue definitely needed he's joined by former Republican senator Bob Bennett.
Senator Dorgan wanna start with -- In listen I guess after clubbing them they're Republican -- bidding up pretty good.
The chart defenses and it's -- -- a brother was maybe the last arrow in the quiver but you think in my work.
Well what I hope will work is that people talk about these issues suggests significant and serious issues -- country phases.
And describe the conditions under which compromises can be reached fact as we need to solve these problems.
And the lack of going back and forth and trying to find common ground.
Has not been very beneficial so I think what is going on now is finally did it by the way in order to solve these deficits problems.
We have to do a little of everything you need restraint you need -- entitlement reform fiscal restraint to spending restraint and your -- of additional revenues.
And with all due respect everyone says that that's the answer that every single person on both sides -- out for the most part will say.
And yet when it comes actually Kabul in some sort of -- -- together we don't necessarily get that.
And I agree -- -- maybe breaking bread -- -- isn't so bad certainly it's better than going on TV.
Or going across the country -- and campaign style.
But having said that senator Bennett.
Compromise means that both sides give up something.
What -- what do the Republicans think the president should give up.
Well.
Compromise doesn't necessarily mean -- like a financial deal.
OK let's split the difference between these numbers compromise can mean look at my problem.
And I will look at your problem and maybe we can come to an agreement here not a compromises sacrifices anything better recognition.
That the other guy may be right.
One of the problems here is that neither side is willing to give the idea of good faith.
To the other and as a consequence.
You get expressions of bad faith on both sides and then accusations of bad faith.
Poisoning the well makes it impossible to make any kind of a deal even one on which both sides could agree just the poisoned atmosphere here there's the problem.
So I -- I like the way you frame that but.
If that is the case in both sides are adamant about their belief system and they can't be swayed should compromise be like a financial bill that that's really a 5050 split.
Senator -- but perhaps.
I gotta give up something in return for something else.
Well let's take a look at what is now going on in the controversy over the closing of the White House matures.
As people on the right are coming up with a whole list of things that they think could be shut down by the government.
And make more sense than shutting down the -- -- why didn't they put those in a piece of legislation.
And send it to the president.
For his signature or his Vito instead of driving his to a sequester.
Which takes the congress out of that entirely it's not the congress.
By pushing to the sequester has put the president a position where he has complete control.
All -- gets cut and what doesn't and now they're not liking what he's deciding.
But they're the ones who gave him the power to decide.
They should've said OKMR president these other kinds of things we think should be cut.
And then have -- look at some of the -- you may -- well be right that may be a dumb thing that we can cut out and that's how you get a deal not this kind of tremendous confrontation has been going -- right.
And I guess senator Dorgan though on that note they they feel like okay you know the president what some of these things it feels like -- shenanigans.
A lot of lot of volunteers do the towards the guy -- to -- whole operation.
Just got a massive pay increase over the last few years when the public learns about things like this maybe they went a little bit of a public relations victory many guys.
Maybe this is what the problem is maybe they're too busy trying to score public relations points.
And that actually getting down and cobble something together but.
The you know -- senator Dorgan what the idea that compromise.
Isn't financial compromise but somehow persuading the other side to adopt your ideology.
Well first of all let me say -- scoring any points here -- -- that that this sequester is an assault on common sense it's -- so.
Neither side scoring comment that you know scoring any points.
Or I I just think we shouldn't be suspicious of people who wanna compromise.
That's -- -- lubrication of democracy has always been.
When people think differently about issues sit out at the table and try to come to some resolution.
What's happening now is there's no resolution and anything because there's complete total gridlock so.
Let's not be suspicious of attempts to try to find some common ground I think that only good for the country.
Do you agree though at the end of the day when it's -- -- -- ultimately the president is the one who somehow it's gotta make this work is somehow.
Has to find a way to bring both sides of the aisle together.
On these critical issues for the president should do that but you know -- if you're gonna have pairs dancing got to have a -- right.
-- so did the president needs to provide leadership so too does that the congress and I think all sides needed to understand the country's second this the country's fed up.
With gridlock it's time for people to sit around and understand that we always -- New Jersey USA let's fix these problems.
-- fantastic senator Dorgan and senator Bennett.
Maybe you guys can come back and now what these guys in the -- because that's.
As of right now -- -- look too good but we appreciate your time in I learned a lot just from this short and if you appreciate it thank you --
