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Oakland School District spokesman Troy Flint and American Indian Charter Schools founder Ben Chavis discuss fraud in the Oakland school district.
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We just talked about bench Davis founder of three California charter schools for succeeding in teaching kids -- that couldn't be -- but.
Despite the success of his schools despite having some of the best test scores and California.
The Oakland school board now may shot the schools down.
-- basically this is because people don't like -- -- yes they hate me.
And many also say you did some.
Illegal profit making things where can you believe that in America you should make a profit.
Well I educate kids let's bringing your opponent Troy Flint speaks for the Oakland board Ben is here with me.
What that -- the school should be close because of him.
The school should not be be close because of savings this school should be close because there's an egregious conflict of interest.
That's resulting in almost four million dollars being stolen from Oakland tax what do you mean -- The money has been misappropriated.
For personal use.
Funneled through contracts.
Into businesses.
In which they -- -- -- have an ownership interest if American Indian.
Implement the proper reforms.
And deals with the conflict of interest we would be happy to see the school kept open under -- responsible fiscal management entity.
But haven't they already done what you want he's off the board.
-- off the board but he's inserted figure heads.
We need to see a third party entity that will come in and -- generally accepted accounting principles and stop the history of fraud.
I history of fraud -- you commit fraud.
Some of the specifics.
You charged rent to the school because you on the property the rents too high your company did construction jobs and was paid triggered yet -- -- -- I charge a dollar and nine cents a square foot.
Some charter schools in the city are charging are paid two dollars a square foot you paid your wife.
-- -- he had -- accountant 150000 dollars a year for her company she also did other charter schools.
Now at the that led to hot the next bid was for 300000.
Dollars -- save the school -- 150000 dollars.
Now they don't use -- anymore they're -- and a quarter of a million dollars of -- a year who's written off the taxpayer you.
Incurred charges -- your personal card credit card that was paid by the school.
This and what happened is the -- credit card.
-- Was that it was overextended -- could use it as secretary on several occasion asked to use my credit card let's get it right.
Charges were made -- turning my credit card to school actually paid some in my car charges 2000 exact 2045.
Dollars exactly.
I reimburse the school they didn't tell that part of the story also use words like stolen I haven't stolen that guy -- deflate it in you know it's all a bunch of rhetoric.
No way as a matter of fact I didn't -- it and that's definitely.
Give him a chance to respond.
Go ahead Troy.
Anyone with an interest in viewing the facts can go to the Oakland unified school district website and review the report.
The appendix does contain checks it -- snapshots of the financial accounting.
It's all very clear it's not just Oakland school board that saying this is Alameda County superintendent of schools.
It's -- California Department of Education -- us from these violations.
He's got three distinct entities it seems very -- had been told that all these people from Sacramento to Oakland people who aren't even involved with -- schools on a day to day basis are coming into the same conclusion.
But they're all part of what I call the education blob and I guess but I wonder is.
Maybe he's an awful person.
And maybe he made a profit that he shouldn't act.
But the kids -- -- -- -- making a profit -- with all due respect it's about breaking a bomb locked in -- pursuit of profit but I would -- even distinction why would you even talk about closing the school win for less money per student.
They do so well US news and world report ranks -- number one in Oakland.
You've got your district which is millions of dollars in death I would think American Indian is are the good guys and you're the.
-- The students at American Indian the teachers and the families are the good guys.
The people above them in the administration.
Who are taking advantage of their desire to have a good education.
To enrich themselves -- violation of the law are the bad guys you have to separate the two.
Thank you Troy Flint.
-- yet you don't deny that you have a really big ego that your megalomaniac a monster and a curse -- yeah all of us.
And I not educate kids.
Oh -- -- does not they've ripped off the taxpayer but now under wandered off these guys you know I understand the hate competition.
I don't even worked at the school.
-- trying to do is they're using me to close to school.
Thank you bench -- School board will make a decision in a couple weeks.
