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Yahoo! CEO and female power house Marisa Mayer.
Laying down a tough ultimatum for her employees working at home show what -- deaths or lose your job.
She says some of the best decision insights come from hallway and cafeteria discussions read the memo speaking equality are often sacrifice we work from home.
But this is -- -- firestorm.
Among self proclaimed feminist begging the question.
What role should feminism play in corporate America and it's -- dirty word joining me now -- -- Senior policy analyst for the independent women's forum Michelle fields correspondent for the next generation and Remi Spencer an attorney here with me on sat.
Yeah I wanna read this got to you guys that are risks that gave about feminism in this is what really caught my attention today she said I don't think.
That I would consider myself up at seven this I believe that glimmer justice capable of if not more so.
But I don't have the militant drive in sort of the chip on my shoulder that sometimes comes with that feminism has become in many ways a more negative word -- what do you say.
I think she's absolutely.
Right I agree 100%.
With what she is saying.
She's saying that women are capable they arm powered she believes an equal rights for men and women.
But she's not saying that she's going to label herself.
She's not claiming that she got this far in her career because she is a woman or because she was part of a feminist movement and yes I think it's an objective fact that today.
People look at the -- benefit feminism differently than they did maybe a decade ago or in his sixties -- in the seventies and that I think is what she was commenting on.
-- when you look at this I'm curious what you have to say about this because I think the faces of feminism have changed over time.
And people react to that to you agree with Marisa.
Because listen -- like to identify myself as a feminist but when I dill.
Like most people.
I feel that I need to clarify exactly what I mean -- I use that term so incredibly it's become a dirty word but I think it's a word with many different meanings to many different people.
Michelle and ask you about the stay at home mom it's okay the mommy bloggers had a fit over her comments about staying at how here's what one of them said.
The irony is that -- has broken glass ceiling that seems unwilling for other women to lead a balanced life in which they care for their families and still concentrate on developing their skills and career.
What do you say to that.
Well I think absolutely right like.
I think it's disappointing because she is if anyone she should understand how difficult it has to balance be successful career while also.
You know bouncing -- -- -- life there.
Where it's -- -- now -- people are trying to pay their bills they're also trying to take care of their children take care of their elderly sick parents perhaps.
And then -- -- job where you're sitting at a fast isn't for everyone some people can work just as well it's not batter if -- -- home.
So I think think the -- have this one size fits -- I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree because she didn't say we're gonna make everybody nine divers.
She didn't say that being home is necessarily a bad thing her concern is not with every individual family -- with.
Making Yahoo! a better and more profitable company which she has done a lion attack how funny they could be -- -- company did not have a lot easier to get people together and come up with -- through -- through what.
-- Forms of what she said is that there have been.
Objective verifiable by verifiable problems with the stay at home program at Yahoo!.
But they're stopping it that I didn't several month yeah.
-- -- Eileen and I get ahead.
Like it here for a second because.
Here's what I think this is interesting about this conversation we know the women make only 77 cents on the dollar that men make one of the big problems of women leave the work should forced to raise kids so.
I mean there isn't issue here -- -- yield do you think it's fair that stay at home moms may miss out on the boat with this company.
IE you know I hear -- and I hear -- I think the important point is and a and a marketplace where the labor market is.
-- and more robust women can make choices about where they want to go to work and find the right fit.
Find that right workplace policy for them you know.
I'm someone here has worked at -- traditional office space.
I've also spent some time working from home and I enjoy that flexibility so much in fact some women make a decision that conscious decision.
To work from home -- to work shorter hours.
And in exchange take its smaller paycheck and that's -- freedom I think women should -- I think that the choice the last let me know what to make a strange person weighed in on this whole.
-- Richard Branson no kidding here's what he said.
Here's truly is never -- out of an office and never well this seemed to backward step in an age where remote working is easier and more effective than ever.
Working life -- nine to five anymore the world -- connected companies that do not embrace this are missing a trick.
-- you know it's interesting Branson is not even talking about feminism here he's just saying that.
Gotta be able to work from home.
But -- we're saying Myers saying.
You these people are not working from home they're staying home and I'm paying them and I'm not getting what I think I should.
You know -- it think it's a little bit strange that Branson is Chiming in on this but the truth is you can -- Greenwood to both of them and not be inconsistent.
Because they think Branson is right there have to be some sort of flexibility but it by the same token.
If it's not working for Yahoo!.
-- is making the right decision Michelle what do you say but -- -- it's not working because they're not keeping tabs on their employers doesn't it seems ridiculous that they need to their employees to be in the cubicle next sit back and -- keep tabs on that.
If you have good management skills you should know what everyone is doing even if they're not in the room with -- there at home -- Working from a different country that we have the technology we have Skype teach -- -- constantly keep -- have played it doesn't make -- right I'm excited.
Because all of that seems to be in a very experimental say that they employers in the future -- compete for the best and brightest workers by offering them more flexibility I think it's super exciting for women.
In my generation who want to have that work life balance wanna have a -- wanna have a career.
And we're gonna get to watch it play out at Yahoo! has made a wrong decision if it my way out sooner very that's what I have read it and -- proud of -- weighing.
-- right Hadley Michelle on right thanks for coming on tonight guys were absolutely fantastic thank you.