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Tonight the promises they they always make them.
-- -- This administration.
War on poverty in America.
Feel and comfort -- create -- we'll make America energy independent by nineteen.
But government -- so here's my favorite statement.
The -- of big government is over but it's there.
It's getting bigger -- so what snow in store for our future.
That's our show.
Just watch -- to -- the union we watch so you don't have to go.
And once again I'm freaked out by what I heard.
The president says he's not going to increase the deficit he's not.
But from his promises.
He's going to spend this broke government will consume more money and more of my freedom that's what I her.
If only someone who really believed in limited government.
Someone who respects the dignity of the individual.
Individual freedom if only someone like Ron Paul would run for president.
Oh he's here via satellite doctor Paul what are you run for president.
Well well John that's interesting because I had a dream once and I actually did and I had a dream that we I was doing very well.
And that guy won the primary in Iowa and boy -- look up that next morning I went out and watch -- TV.
My name was never mentioned so I guess it was all just a dream but I've thought about it so maybe someday I will.
And hence the point of my joking introduction you were often ignore it by.
Not this program but many in the media but you did get in the Republican primary more than two million votes.
Yeah so I was pretty pleased of course.
-- you know well he always want to do better.
But I was very encouraged by the number of people especially the young people that showed up when I went to the university is that's where I have become.
More optimistic I have to admit I did watch some of the city in -- tonight.
And I didn't come out of watching that there has come -- -- -- that was rather depressing.
But that would go to college campuses which I will continue to do.
There's reason to be optimistic a lot of young people no way.
You have been talking about and so many others it's so different than it was when I first got into politics in 1970.
A lot of people now do care about individual liberty.
And -- limited government.
And you didn't attend many states of the union EU and a few other congressman Dave was.
I don't blame -- we just missed some of these guys show up ten hours early to be at the end of the IL so they can get their faces on TV it.
It's a big suck up.
Thought it was terrible I watched a little bit of that tonight and I keep thinking of -- I mean it's it's like a circus a joyous occasion.
In rushing in there and getting -- -- and held they'll go in there and now occupy the seat there very early on hours and hours before.
But the jumping up and down in the ritual that they go through.
I should do Republicans get up on this -- or should they sit on my hands all this is one where everybody gets up and down.
And it sounds like the world has been saved if you if you are locked in just being on that floor it would be so distorted.
That's about the way Washington isn't so distorted they live in their own little bubble.
And they don't know that there's anybody like you or anybody -- your audience that might have questions about what's going on in this country -- certain.
I'm reading getting answers tonight.
And I know that it -- -- requirement that they hold these.
That the constitution just says the president each from time to time -- give congress information on the state of the union.
Thomas Jefferson wrote -- is and that's what happened for a hundred years George Washington said 800 words.
Obama it's several thousand words.
That depresses me I'm I'm I'm gonna drop that are there are younger members of congress now you have retired other younger people who -- you hope.
Oh yes certainly the numbers aren't great -- you know there's -- six to twelve that are gonna do a very good job and -- a lot more.
Then there had been -- -- and in many years and I was there so that's that's very encouraging.
But you you don't doorstep when you rep representative Justin a -- senator Ted -- Thomas Massie and take your holder Harry hadn't -- -- Lowe Steve Stockman.
Yeah -- and -- that's a real good that's a real good start.
And we do need a lot more about that the truth -- I don't think weekends after listen to a speech like that you -- should be convinced that this spending isn't going to quit before we have a calamity that's what I think's gonna happen.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop trying to change people's minds but do think that next year and -- two years from now we're gonna have.
More members of congress who were finally gonna come to our senses and we're gonna vote against some of this largesse for all the special interest and we're gonna bring our troops home.
And they're going to repeal.
And -- -- restrain the president from assassinating American citizen his his so called right to do that.
That's not going to happen there's going to be a serious problem economic and a crisis here.
Where there will be a decision made by the people mostly the young people right now they're in college and getting out of college and what kind of a system we have.
We -- -- -- been around it's called the constitution.
And we would go in that direction once again we could solve some of our -- But right now is not going to be gradual I think we're it's inevitable we're gonna have this financial crisis which is going to be very very serious.
The answer is in the constitution what happened and what Guillermo was struck by how -- it is compared to the laws that we now must abandon.
-- you were in congress 35 years.
Any thing get better.
Now it all in all got worse.
You know -- always went out then.
And government got bigger and and more wars and.
And and -- -- -- money on that and more power to the -- had more central economic planning.
That's what you see on the surface it.
In the 1930s.
West most of things you saw on the surface surface was defense of liberty and even Roosevelt ran on a balanced budget and a gold standard 1830 -- So I think the reverse is the case now everything on the surface looks like it's welfare is -- my hand out warfare -- forever.
But I think underneath there's this smoldering desire that is growing by leaps and bounds and saying -- a lot of those people in this country have had enough of it.
And I think tonight you know they -- he talked about a lot of my gun control.
But the American.
And I I think.
The this awakening is commenting is is it is -- way so I would like to do my share and -- and the narration -- awakening.
I he did talk a lot about gun control but he never mentioned the word drone wants.
-- that's the -- we ought to really control.
I think the drone missile is and an -- drone warfare is one of the most dangerous thing you know -- this and when I left congress I at least in my speech at.
Attack on civil liberties -- -- most serious threat.
But then the other the other thing was.
All of foreigners in foreign countries like that we do an analyst countries you know by drones and civilians they kill them.
And Americans -- killed and it's it's so over the top and there's not enough talk about that and that.
That's when he 8080 you don't have -- civil liberty they do say they are keeping us safe kill them there are so they don't you know is here.
-- -- that's what they say but every time they killed civilian there you probably get -- more.
That are dedicated to the principles of what the al-Qaeda stands for.
Keep foreigners out of darling on and punish those who come here to kill us.
And and in the end the day the -- the warfare -- even that is build out the need right now saw statistic where.
We are actually putting troops in two.
Probably about 35 countries in Africa because we're competing.
But China has earned some money you know we buy their stuff and they're going out there and investing in natural resources -- we're investing by buying more weapons and going over there and putting more troops in Africa.
And now they say well we've had this victory in Iraq and Afghanistan who we're gonna move to the far reason into Africa and -- those lands as well.
Is gonna backfire.
Because we will go bankrupt in these things will have to stop and there's going to be a lot of -- not this is not the way to win friends and influence people.
By -- dropping drone missiles on them constantly.
Doctor hallway have a largely young audience here and it has some questions for you but just before I go to the one more I realize I mentioned these young congressman you -- -- -- site.
Left out someone named Rand Paul in -- is is he is libertarian as you.
We'll have to ask hill man he's the most libertarian and -- senate you know I think that that's pretty good so.
He and he's.
He's been exposed to all the good idea as well I'm not -- to do the comparison.
Are let's go to the audience who has a question for doctor Paul.
Hi doctor -- how you doing tonight.
-- -- was thanks thanks my question to you is what did you learn from running for president.
That you ought to have enough people of the double checking on coming on the votes they can't -- to make insurance that you get a fair shake.
Now about mostly well I've learned is that liberty is alive and well and like I mentioned early I just love the fact that young people will respond.
To a libertarian message and self reliance and responsibility.
And sound money and especially the young people were especially excited.
About -- had different foreign policy of bringing our troops home and not -- looking for wars to fight.
So I learned -- the country is a lot better off than I thought.
And you know five years ago before the first time -- on -- -- pessimistic to think that.
I might not reach hardly anybody and it turned out.
A did meet.
You know a significant number.
Two point one million yes who's next.
A doctor -- a question for you.
We have foremost is former years of Obama and we've seen his record on civil liberties and the constitution.
And it really doesn't seem like the trend is our friend.
What is -- gonna take for Obama supporters to start to realize and start to protest.
Like they -- when the last Republican was an office.
Then they're not going to this is going to continue both for Republicans and Democrats.
As long as the money functions because right now the world.
The world market is all foreign countries are still willing to take dollars the dollar.
Perception why still looks better than holding.
Foreign currencies so we get the print the money run up our -- And then they -- our.
Our current season they finance our debt.
So nobody's gonna complain.
Obama's promise all this extra spending and in Republicans aren't going to cut the welfare to the military industrial complex.
It won't stop until the dollar quits working and that could come any time but it probably isn't going to happen next week or two.
-- -- on that.
Because there's no real serious intent to cut the argument in Washington.
Is -- you increase something by 90% or by 20%.
One present different and they say all the ones who won 19%.
88 increased -- are the slashing the budget.
So they are fought so far out of -- out of touch that it's gonna take the bankruptcy for her.
Anybody to wake up and say enough is enough.
Thank you doctor Paul and -- should point out generally when the interest rates.
Coop they go up very suddenly so -- -- now that -- -- guarantee of anything.
Thank you so much for your service you were so alone for so many -- thank you for fighting the good fight.
Thank you John.
I'll give the state of the union that President Obama should have ever.
But next this is the business channel.
What is the state of the union mean for business.
There three shrouded in America.
Somehow as usual it involves yet more government but does government create jobs.
Bob Levy created real jobs about 700 he built a business.
And Steve Forbes runs the magazine that calls itself probably a capitalist tool because he understands real jobs are created by capitalism.
But Steve I don't think people get bad because polls show what you want government to do create jobs.
All government can do John is create the environment where people go out and create jobs what -- -- government can just create jobs they could just pay people to do stuff.
Yeah magicians can create rabbits but not that yeah it's.
It's not not in the -- not a good.
And and so and when they government tries to do -- businesses do you get Solyndra it's meritocracy vs cronyism.
And we have an environment -- -- -- can do real things.
And -- success and accept failure and not get bailed out by the government.
By golly this economy creates jobs and allows people to move ahead as Abraham Lincoln said improve your lot in life.
Government keeps people in their place government -- opportunities because government does not know how to create things real people do.
-- the people and they will do it.
-- Three and a half years ago to start a business you make kitchen ventilation systems fans that suck out the bad air.
And now government it wants to make your business better and I see there about 79 pages from the Energy Department.
That they're going to help you.
Health all of you.
That -- opinion mention -- small enterprise focusing on 79 pages of new government regulation.
Many in the manufactures and our business are very small that I have the resources to do this it'll.
-- nine pages it's too abstract but I tried to read any of this -- in hot.
No notice of for pool proposed rule making customers subgroup analysis section thirteen.
Complete MIA missing in action it's unintelligible.
And it but what they're trying to do is make your -- -- use less electricity.
We already use all the smallest amount of electricity we can we have a very efficient and industry.
It's essentially we have a paradox here the president wants to create jobs but he wants regulators to death.
As Steve Forbes mentioned the key to creating jobs -- freedom and creativity.
The involvement of families -- investment small investments that are made over very long periods of time and government.
-- that for all of our company.
John the thing to keep in mind is you don't succeed and a true free market unless you meet the needs and wants of other people.
So even if you have a caricature of Obama nesting for money and all like kind of stuff that you don't want to characterize Obama -- -- the heat.
Paper plate pays have you have a class on her being greedy and all like kind of thing can take your -- -- over your pile of money yes and helping people get more miserable you know it's it's it's absolutely perverse.
But even if you lust for money John you don't get it unless you provide something that somebody else wants.
And that's why in terms of electricity that the market wants more efficient -- Bob will provide them and other arch partners will provide them.
Government restore growth markets respond just take the cell phone you know the -- thirty years ago -- -- -- shoe box cost 3995.
Dollars the President Obama had been involved not -- -- today.
Dollars and could you be talking.
-- brings us some stuff.
But the president says it's not fair the CEOs that you you're getting all the money and the average person doesn't get any.
And that's not fair he's gonna raise the minimum wage.
Sounds fair to people if CEOs are making a lot of money then they must have an awful lot of success and they -- police a lot of customers.
Just like baseball players do or movie actresses.
All right but raise the minimum wage for the guys at the bottom.
-- the guys at the bottom are teenagers and what is gonna do is just take out all -- jobs I work for 85 cents an hour and I was in high school.
And I was very happy to have that job.
John when people start out in life they don't have the skills.
This in May when you get taken an entry level job.
You start to get the skills to move up start to get to higher wages as you get more skills what this judge does is create more teenage unemployment they never get a chance to -- of the work force and earn enough to -- those -- -- young people applauding that line.
-- get it they're the ones hurt the most by the stuff the president said six million new jobs have been created since he took office.
Yes as if he created them what he left out is.
That was -- pay of those jobs John overall they're low skill low wage jobs not the kind of diversity of job creation we -- with Ronald Reagan and with Bill Clinton.
We had an environment or aren't -- not punished for trying to do real things.
-- -- the public is against -- look in yesterday's New York Times.
Big front page story young.
Voters are liberal and open to big government.
And when you poll people -- people especially what you want government to do create jobs.
So we understand that somehow -- free market does that but we're not.
We in the hearts and mind it's John that the free lunch always sounds good going in -- 60%.
Of the small business job creators.
In a recent survey said that.
The federal government.
This hostile to small business now how can the federal government be hostile small business and create jobs it can't happen it's a paradox.
And eat this survey was stunned by your group by the job -- alliance a group of businessmen who want to speak out about all the rules and and the I mean eat your CEO's in general have been whips they have not wanted to participate in the public debate you're -- -- -- -- to speak out but this small business.
People are speaking out.
In this survey saying that the federal government's hostile.
And it's that inhibits job creation.
It dampens freedom just like our friends there at the Department of Energy was 79 pages of regulation so why don't more entrepreneur -- were CEOs speak out there they're intimidated by political correctness and they are afraid of the federal government frankly.
That if they speak out they'll be regular absolutely.
-- they may be targeted by the IRS -- -- notes.
But look what had to happen to Standard and -- They did a poor job but sort of their competitors who gets targeted standard -- -- the rating of the government government targets them.
A lesson told.
Next to Michelle Obama -- was the head of apple -- for.
And -- -- -- thought that was a big difference there at Obama's praising gives us.
But Obama -- now that he's one has a captive customer base for four years.
You and Tim Cook yet to please your customers every second where you lose them in you lose everything you've game.
And CEO turnovers the highest it's ever been.
You -- all of us feel sorry for -- hey do you you well the market works.
If you're paying a lot -- expect to deliver if you don't -- should go a wish we had that kind of thing in baseball.
Or in politics thank you.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Three libertarian experts on -- real.
Meaning of Obama's promise.
Coverage of the state of the I hear Republicans and Democrats think -- Obama will this help Republicans.
Really care what I care about is to Obama's -- advance freedom.
And prosperity here -- Our freedom loving panels here to debate this reason magazine editor Catherine -- -- -- Newsweek editor Michael Lloyd -- and syndicated columnist steroid Murdoch's all you start drawing what's the -- mean to you as far as freedom -- I think the onslaught against liberty will continue unfortunately.
Pres Obama said that the American people don't expect government to solve every problem and -- it seems that he's there to solve every problem.
We've -- Louis police when he said that it was it was that started should've stopped right there but we've got we got fifteen manufacturing hubs geragos will be -- cylinder cities.
We've got manufacturing doesn't happen government has to create -- a couple of it and and get the Hudson to get the manufacturer going.
At the we have a college scorecard that delegates Obama bring in a I thought US news and world will report gave us updates on which college is we're doing good job the congress can do that for us.
Early education -- -- have three years three year old to the kids going it's going to school I'm sure with federal subsidies.
So more activity more government dizziness and of course is all gonna cost a lot of money.
The preschool is appealing to people.
He he just wants to give the kids to head start.
What's wrong with that.
You know I'm I'm highly sympathetic to people wanting to shovel their kids out the door and into the government's hands but.
You know the fact is that head start which is our pilot program for universal preschool has I'm not great record we spend eight billion dollars to get.
Very very little in terms of results and there was a federal study -- this -- the -- -- its own study.
Showing the results a year later that day that the results near you seal a little bit of game to see if you -- in the pre -- years.
It's gone by for script and in terms of academics and and and similarly bad results in terms of social and the president tonight said fewer than three -- 104 year old -- rolled.
In preschool like this is a problem while giving -- course is it's not like.
Overall they government has done great with public schools I mean the last three decades we've doubled or tripled spending depending on how you count scores are at best flat.
We suck it education well let.
Let's talk about spending -- 'cause he says he's not gonna increase the deficit let's -- the -- up we have a spending since the beginning of America.
It's quite remarkable to show how.
Most of the life of the country government was less than 5% of the economy it's only recently that it's.
Gone up and now with sequestration there.
President Obama talked about sudden harsh arbitrary cuts.
Which sound terrible.
They are yeah in this that this is what does the frustration is with -- arbitrary better than not a good thing right I mean what if we try to get people in -- room to sit down to line -- things.
We're gonna cut this it offends somebody's constituents so it doesn't get caught I mean you -- one thing about that ground for a couple things about it.
One is that's consistent -- Republican and democratic administrations there's no -- when Republicans come down and it goes up if we Democrats.
Very consistent with both parties.
The other thing is you don't have any specific talk tonight about entitlement reform which is something again that Republicans and Democrats are very bad about it yeah they talk about in time we had a great talk almost everything.
There's a lot of things can yeah.
The president said.
What we have to make some adjustments to Medicare and Marco Rubio said anyone who's in favor of leaving Medicare.
The way it is is in favor of bankrupting it.
That's more honest and I've heard in the past it's an honest talk as far as that goes but when they actually when the time comes to sit down and do something about it really nothing happens and part of the fiscal cliff.
Discussions just a few weeks ago.
Other Republicans and look could we do a little something like maybe push the Medicare Social Security age up one year.
And Harry Reid becomes a no no we're not gonna do that so even in that sort of dire circumstance no changes made whatsoever.
-- -- and is supposed to be a time for bold to talk and his version of bold talk on reforming entitlements is.
He used the word my modest to sort this and it's -- gonna go let's also keep in mind there is a big announcement 201130400.
Billion in spending that would -- -- Bipartisan shares at peace this weekend of the Washington Post said that this was a mirage there was no spending cuts through minor things here and there -- -- and there's a lot of talking good game or central they have trillions been -- but that's been cut for what they wanted to increases that it's not an actual.
-- I think -- -- -- your fond of pointing out the Republicans haven't proposed to kill -- -- this is very true I think that when we talk about cuts in Washington usually what it means is that you re you've reduced the rate of increase little bit.
And really cut that's real cut as we take a program you -- it is sending workers home -- sell off the building and you take the authorizing legislation put a big X through it.
Then you know you've you've you've actually cut a program.
The things like the -- -- to pitchman restriction was put in by FDR to bring power to -- they now have that they're not busy putting in broadband Internet in appellation.
I think there's a great place -- started the GOP should fight about ten programs that are there all antiquated don't work.
And shut them down those will be real cuts he could start there the Washington Post had a great story recently.
This federal program won't die -- -- Christopher Columbus fellowship program that spent 80% of its money and home yeah.
Even President Obama requested it be cut four times Republicans introduced legislation to end that.
And they can't get rid of it because senator Thad Cochran has got -- contributor on the board of this group.
Preserves that they can't get rid of anything but you don't even have to go to some silly example like that and in that -- it's hilarious but.
But you've also -- just talk about farm subsidies which are -- there's broad bipartisan agreement that.
Farm subsidies are broken there -- the same bill as food stamps which gives all kinds of crazy incentives you -- American farmers are not too.
In trouble right now and yet -- cut them dozens of checks every -- including people who live in Manhattan and technically on a farm.
He's number of them clearly the night I was yeah yeah yeah and my neighbors up and yet the -- of these growing girl forever.
And will presumably continue after that Super Bowl out when we found at the farmers the back from America that's yeah.
I have 50% college students in the audio this audience let's talk about what he said about college -- The heat's gonna have this score -- and in fairness.
Yes he was news and world report doesn't but I think they're promising they're gonna figure out who gets jobs.
To be better.
Well you know Bill Gates gave his annual address on and on.
Issues facing the world and he too said we need to rework our scorecard on education so.
We'll have Bill -- slug US news.
Then we'll have a government version but no one reads that's badly formatted that you can't find on the Internet except for in a PDF that like you have to download -- -- Actually five million dollars -- -- -- Seattle definitely cost.
Well a lot of a lot.
I was struck by what he said about climate change when.
We must do more to combat climate change and there is overwhelming.
Judgment of scientists that.
And it was caused by climate change by Sunnis and sleight of hand I -- credit for for being that sort of they're devious about this.
The previous sentence -- -- the next sentence has overwhelming evidence there is not overwhelming evidence.
The climate change caused her cancer and there is no evidence that because certainly there's there's evidence that may be the sea level rises had you know made the water there's no evidence the actual hurricane itself in the frequencies of these are cans are the result of climate change.
It's just bunker back right that's a lot of -- in this but what's just pick on this one moment.
That is is you know another kind of you know throw it out there hopefully get some federal program intended to solve this is nothing there is a lot of evidence that -- -- climate is -- -- -- yes absolutely.
But I think I think climate change might have been responsible for the full moon that was of a very large factor in the destruction of -- -- You must like it that he's getting the troops out of Afghanistan.
Who goes -- -- best.
I think what -- then again we're speaking of sleight of hand was go back to back.
The we're gonna go down to a troop level incidentally that is about the same level if not slightly more than when President Bush.
Left office why is that going to lower than when bush left should -- Obama doesn't mention that he tried -- troop surge in Afghanistan.
They'd failed miserably so I mean we're not looking for victory here which is typically what you hear in these sorts of situations.
-- are gonna get the troops out and yet we're going to have a strong presence in the world empty phrases troops come out.
Afghanistan's still a complete colossal -- cancer last one for you the president said.
Women should earn a living -- of their efforts pass the paycheck fairness act.
I do hope to earn a living equal to my efforts I think the paycheck fairness act we'll have exactly nothing to do with that.
-- but there is a reason for that which I'll cover the future show.
Panel thank you please stick around because now it's.
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-- reaction of the state of the union our panel's back.
Reason magazine editor Catherine -- award Newsweek editor Michael morning -- syndicated columnist right Murdoch.
First question from FaceBook -- the president's focus on gun control immigration a smokescreen.
To avoid dealing with the death.
I don't that's a really a smokescreen as such but when you've got to sit down and actually do budget which the senate Democrats not done in almost four years.
And going through and and -- specific on things like that that's hard work getting up and saying no we need to have stopped to gun violence that's a lot easier at least is an issue.
-- -- Frankly I'm not sure he needs to throw up a smoke -- in the near the American people don't know what to do about the -- they think it's this huge state it's out of control and they might vaguely looked to the president for solutions but.
You know they're perfectly happy to talk about other stuff -- that's what seems like this intractable problem.
I was wondering what do you expect the impact of this college ranking system President Obama talked about to be.
Well I think what he's actually trying to do with -- is to go harder on for profit schools so they -- in his first term he tried says.
Issued new rules the Department of Education which would.
Make it harder for for profit schools to get federal money and while I certainly favor turning off the flood of federal money that's.
Making tuition rates everywhere.
I suspected the underlying purpose of -- fake US news and world report will be too.
Make for profit schools particularly those that -- career training look bad and ultimately not eligible for federal funds.
I think I think that's right I mean it's gonna have never affects them and unfortunately fortunately like I luckily I don't like I like everything in this speech -- -- have absolutely zero effect if he were to be brave and any sense and we wouldn't expect this.
It would be what -- just sad to say why is that cost of college rising and he says we have to fight these administrators.
As if they're sort of arbitrarily setting cause exceptionally -- that's not how this works in one of the things is government dollars being pumped and and the other things we need more kids in college or more kids and called -- costs are gonna right so that's.
Been a big factor.
A little bit off topic but I asked to do with Obama -- it is here honest opinion it's something that has always give -- thought about last.
When they first of 2011 it Osama bin Laden was killed -- about about Pakistan and with within 24 hours is our bodies dumped in the ocean.
Do you think it was the right move by the government and do you believe -- government.
-- I always favor explanation of incompetence over conspiracy and for the so if if anyone thinking about conspiracy theory mongering about what happened with that with that Osama bin Laden I think.
You know set that aside if it was a bad PR move it was a bad PR move but I don't think it -- there was anything sinister going on there.
Behind -- and it was a terrific moment.
Very good -- -- and to.
Put one where it belongs and dump them away find them there actually probably a virus like a series actually.
-- how many people on that ship would have had to have been involved in the conspiracy and never to talk about it I I just.
Think these theories arches theory.
-- -- But.
I isn't Mike didn't work he's an.
I think one thing that seems to make sense to me we have a no fly list and I think if you're on the no fly list that says you get a plane -- get past that the ticket counter and airport.
If you're in the no fly -- to audit -- to be on the on the a no buy list.
As far as guns -- -- -- -- -- Mike Douglas-Roberts motto is ineffective as the no fly list ensnared in snares a lot of people who aren't aren't give I think that the vigorous background checks is absolutely fine.
I don't think a lot of the stuff will have.
An appreciable effect on the number of murders as a deep cultural problem.
That's you know you take away the guns and I don't think it's they give -- -- drug war that demands government.
Everything that's been proposed.
Would not have prevented by and large are not have prevented the specific events that it's responding to right so back -- text and not have stopped -- what happened in the economy.
I think there's often a a strong strong urge to do something in the face of these kinds of tragedies and even the things that you know the president is billing as common sense reforms.
Wouldn't have stopped what happened.
-- -- I think and I think for the terrible part of the discussion needs to be the question controlling governments guns we have a swat team mentality on the part of the federal government and certain local authorities were for example if you have -- you're selling raw milk that's not pasteurized.
You've got swat teams coming -- to shut down -- this is in San guys in masks with -- you've got to figure out of tomatoes with grow lights in your house course and it's not just to be handy with subpoenas they don't do that or -- injunction but people coming and coming in with flak jackets all that.
And I think -- -- via there should be controlled governments guns and that ought to be part of this discussion to.
But just one thing that.
The president said we can't just cut our way to prosperity.
And I want to say yes we can't but that's not intuitive to people they.
That they'll see that money would be freed up cuts are harsh and arbitrary didn't you hear me.
Thank you panel we're out of time next what the president should have said.
Why is state of the union's right after -- -- -- state of the our president says more governments the -- -- I have this dream a dream where.
My president walks to the podium he says -- I don't have to suck up to my face is much I realize.
Somebody's gotta be the grown up in the room.
-- -- John Boehner said that I recently told him we don't have a spending problem.
And maybe I said that but I don't remember that but let's get real we -- have a spending problem.
Look at our history.
For most of the life of America government was relatively small -- sit tiny.
Federal state and local government together spent less than 500 dollars per person.
That's in today's dollars for more than a hundred years that's all we spent.
And -- was less than 5% of our economy.
And this is what America grew the most we prospered during this period.
Yet even this limited government had plenty of money enough for the Louisiana purchase this is the civil war here.
The transcontinental railroad.
Under small government America became the richest most powerful country in the world.
Good government group but still only a little this blip appears World War I bigger one -- world were to.
But notice the size of government came back down weekend after the wars.
It since then that it's shot straight up.
When I was a child -- Johnson said.
Government can cure poverty the experts in Washington know how can we created all kinds of welfare payments and so.
But we didn't cure poverty.
Now that I've been reelected it dawns on me that those programs I said need more investment always more.
They didn't work.
Americans were lifting themselves out of poverty on their own when government was small.
But then big government -- -- end and that progress stopped we taught people to be dependent the poor stay cool.
My friend Bill Clinton at least -- a better track that's this brief flat period of spending.
Okay he didn't want to reform welfare Republicans forced him to.
Was good and the economy growing we actually balance the budget we were on track to a sustainable future.
But then President Bush -- He has heard.
90000 new regulators he created new social programs I loved it that they called him a small government guy.
He created a whole new cabinet department Homeland Security bailed out banks and car companies he was a big spender.
And then I got elected and what -- look what happened -- -- -- letter for this the least bit more.
Now we're up to 20000.
Dollars per person.
Family -- 480000.
Dollars is what we spent.
I'm getting dizzy up here -- just no way this is sustainable.
We can't pay for the people who retire and really need help at the rate we're going -- can't afford this.
So all of this week I had an epiphany.
What was so wrong with the spending in the Clinton years.
Why do we need to spend so much more than what Clinton spent.
America doesn't face greater challenges than we did when Clinton was president.
-- I propose we cut spending by 35%.
35% is what gets suspect Clinton level sequester a way that would at least be a stark.
Oh and another point those drones I like using what I just re read this this thing's called the constitution.
It seems to say I can't just kill people -- need to look into this thing.
Also I've decided I've been a hypocrite about the drug war in school choice and all I can dream can't I do the president might have said that.
Maybe next year.
And that's our show all see you next week.
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