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In any event the US and other major world powers holding nuclear talks with Iran today for the first time since June.
Offering the peace and economic sanctions if Iran agrees to stop enriching uranium secretary of state John Kerry yesterday warning.
There could be terrible consequences if talks fail.
And me now former pentagon official Fox News national security analysts some say my identical cousin KT McFarland a wreath in honor.
And figure national security correspondent for Newsweek and the Daily Beast it's not that either you and I lake I guys -- Okay this is our foreign policy -- serious stuff here Chuck Hagel.
Known to be in his past soft on Iran and his policy ready to -- -- sorry he can't be gaining weight you.
With Iran in the news in this talk of lessening these sanctions -- they come to the table and stop with the uranium enrichment.
When he we want ease up on Iran is a problem I think that -- secretary Kerry comes as has dire consequences.
Talk and had dire consequences for years nothing ever happens if you Iran what -- you look at.
Look at North Korea -- North Korea.
And they had gotten away with making nuclear weapons it's gonna stop you dire consequences I don't think so I think that what's happened in the last two weeks.
They they got a lackluster they've wrapped up their -- -- Richmond.
They've taken the vice president of the United States disaster direct talks -- said no thank you very much.
I think they're racing into the Spanish now and that is going to be number one issue on news secretary of defense -- and back how do you deal with Iran.
That's unsettling -- let me let you -- do you think that Iran is listen to the finish line to get these nukes.
Up and running well and if I say the man to contain that.
I mean the thing to watch right now is the -- installation of advanced centrifuges which are far more efficient.
There have been reports the IAEA confirm those reports that they're beginning to be installed.
In the underground bunker facility known as.
They -- outside of the holy kind of city of home where most of the government is actually run from -- Iran.
Now the problem at this point is that the real policy -- the United States has been kind of sabotage and cyber attacks.
And things that are are done with plausible -- -- ability.
And I think that this has been the policy under bush and now also under Obama can this kind of stealth.
Secret war continue to delay.
And can found.
And Ronnie and scientists and that's that's the real question.
And I just want to bring this -- -- you've had an interest in peace.
Daily -- Commenting -- that with the hateful.
Nominate nomination now being confirmed as Defense Secretary Republicans have lots and serious leverage try to get more information on the president's whereabouts.
-- 9/11 with regard to what happened in Ghazi.
That's right I mean -- there was a lot of talk earlier you know earlier this month.
That the reason for that of initial.
Delay -- four vote to not.
Close debate on April in the senate floor was because they.
We're trying to get the president to cooperate more with more information whether it's who finally draft of the talking points that Susan Rice ran.
On that famous Sunday show on been Ghazi or exactly what the president was doing and we talked to on the on the night of the attacks.
And the best they got -- a letter from.
You know the White House counsel the president who reiterated what was already in the public record.
Clearly not enough but I think that in the end.
You know I think you know senatorial courtesy one day.
All right want to switch gears here Kati and talk about this new report from the Henry Jackson society of British -- K great -- tank they're on the number of so called homegrown terrorists.
This study shows a majority -- convicted terrorists in the US -- college educated they are employed or in school almost half did receive terrorist training.
And -- majority are US citizens so how does this impact this discussion.
On these drone attacks on US citizens overseas.
I think a couple of things one wouldn't we see what's happened to our Qaeda in the last ten years al-Qaeda prime out crowd of one point -- the guys in Pakistan and Latin.
That really has been dispersed and -- a lot of senior leadership has really been decimated so -- qaeda's moved not and they they've been the most resilient.
Movement that that we really encountered in in the post war period so what are they done that now set up franchises.
And does he is one.
I'm so -- all over North Africa person the Middle East Yemen and now the third wave is the guys at home and that it gives them a great advantage because it will be announcing companies -- the lone wolves you might see something big coming.
But you -- see some guy who's got.
You know weapons in the back of his car -- -- to the supermarket and that's the worry.
And I think I'm general Hayden said it very well when he said you're seeing a lot more attacks they're not going to be is lethal they're not going to be as effective.
But they're gonna be at home.
Well interesting you mentioned the number of attacks because there's a big -- in this report right the US led military men in Afghanistan incorrectly reported.
A 7% decline Taliban attacks went back now from 2010 to 2011.
It was unchanged.
So does this change things especially now as we're leaving after.
-- -- -- hagel I think that's almost feel sorry for a he's coming into office and what is he gonna find he's got to deal with cyber attacks in China we don't have a plan for that.
We gotta get out of Afghanistan.
We're gonna buy their way out and it's pretty clear they don't want us to stay after we black he's got to deal with a nuclear Iran.
And at the same time by the way starting Friday cut the defense budget.
I -- -- backing like to the homegrown terrorists questioning do you think this is set significant -- -- -- its ports findings.
In some ways we sort of saw this coming because we've already seen some American citizens and people in our own military.
Participating in terrorist attacks the clearly seen the very least inspired by al-Qaeda.
The issue here is that.
If we're going to have a free society with the Internet and global communications instant as it is.
That means that four of -- loner.
Subset they're gonna be vulnerable to radicalization.
Propaganda from al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda has invested in that.
So far I think we've been fairly lucky given all that but it is a really nasty problems also very tough problems with civil liberties perspective -- right.
After -- have to leave it taking McFarland and he -- lake.
Thanks joining us tonight.