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The Department of Agriculture under fire after hosting a mandatory so -- cultural sensitivity training program as we reported here Friday.
A diversity awareness trainer encouraging employees to use the phrase emerging majorities instead of minorities -- calling the pilgrims illegal aliens.
Listen to that.
-- wanted to see America was -- about outsiders say that.
-- today's inside.
You get really nervous about today's -- I want to say the pilgrims were illegal aliens.
Say that students navigate a passport to the Indians.
Joining us out a -- finalize this.
Cultural sensitivity training session.
Psychotherapist doctor -- Lodwick doctor good to have you here and get to be hair I have to say that fellow you can tell one thing and -- -- Yeah absolutely analyze our GAAP.
It sounds like he really thought he was being the fact that and it was an -- -- argument the -- were different when the pilgrims came right.
So he was trying to be -- active and help his audience think differently.
-- Blake was asking the audience to repeat after him.
Because that was.
Type of teaching -- Mac stated that reinforces a certain kind of thinking and it wasn't critical thinking and I think at might be what you're responding to.
A good teacher.
You want to inspire lots of different thoughts you don't want your students what doesn't think the way you did.
Wasn't exactly the -- traffic -- that was it now if it was a little or would we -- that.
Verging on indoctrination.
And and the poor people sitting in that audience.
Our employees he -- presenting the employer in this case the federal government.
Telling them how to think how to speak and also telling them stuff that is utter utter nonsense.
And and I don't have -- and and that's everything in sensitivity training you have to have a and understanding of an independent objective truth write and -- and then you talk about the perceptions of those true.
That's -- -- and other people.
Who are part of that minority talking about their experience and -- sensitivity training should happen from kindergarten not -- this is something that should be like breathing that's just part of the American culture.
That we have an understanding of what it's like to be in different groups.
And what it's like to have different kinds of XP incidents.
That it might cost last -- -- Training -- the government.
There are saying that he does like the words like it matters what he think he doesn't like we're an arts.
So he wants to use the word emerging majority.
It's against the laws of nature of the -- -- one majority at a time.
Right what does that mean.
-- trying to influence.
How people feel and when you change a word you're trying to change -- emotions behind that and they're plopped.
White and their thought process which I don't -- inaccurate because.
Is -- minority doesn't mean you're gonna be in emerging majority of might leaving it might not be ED I.
The thing is there's nothing in and of itself -- is pejorative about the word.
Minority primary is certainly nothing positive about majority in the -- it's all that's what I simply what it is that's -- and to suggest that that is somehow you know I I just find this.
I'm just not sure what he was -- -- man may -- his intentions were bad but.
His style I take issue at an I don't know if he was completely -- and then obviously you want any teaching or training to be effective.
It seemed like he was peddling I'm very simple ideological -- point rather than sensitivity cultural awareness.
And I as I say he was so so -- matter immersed in his cute so I couldn't.
You seem very passionate about his teaching style.
-- but I like it when it classroom encourages people to share their own experience.
And and their own ideas and comes away thinking from a different perspective they hadn't thought -- before that -- -- back to teaching.
We try this from -- about treat others as you were.
What to be treated yourself is -- a good place to start.
It places starting at that I think that's I think there's not a -- I don't know that it pilgrims were illegal and because the law didn't exist bad but that's just name.
Are we gotta get through this the Hispanic leadership network Republican operation.
-- shouldn't just put up a couple of words here because you got to the point of that I that I -- Really wanted to structure very quickly.
One of his spokesman Jennifer coronet.
-- -- the Hispanic leadership when she said what we're trying to do is talk to elected officials on how to be proactive.
On immigration reform without using the harsh.
Home in the harsh rhetoric rhetoric.
When you start throwing the word illegal surrounded sort of human crisis.
I wanna go through if -- -- first.
To the independent reality this is what the government.
Our refers to those are in this country illegally as.
-- first rather refer to them is illegals are aliens the they say very specifically US code section one eleven or 183.
Uses the term alien defines as that any person novices -- United States.
The US long -- also use the -- illegal alien an unauthorized alien.
My goodness I would have.
Saying that they in the words should be undocumented.
Citizen.
And are documented there whatever but the point being -- up he says people were throwing those words around.
-- -- and -- loosely.
When in fact it is the correct language and the correct -- and I guess what she's saying is sometimes the correct language is inflammatory.
So let's think about that.
And and does this -- -- Influence the way the people or people in general experience illegal aliens doesn't get people to dehumanize them to see them as the last man.
To not give them a chance I think that was her perspective and that was her point.
You perceive this from -- -- -- I received from the government that brings an eleven million at least death issues of death eleven million illegal government.
Brings them into this country we provide for them provide good jobs we're working -- Create a rational effective humane immigration.
A resolution for their status.
And you see that is -- -- the government that is being dehumanizing or is this an ideological game that's being played.
In which people are trying to controlled language and through language control fought.
And therefore.
It is something that would be extraordinarily careful about -- she's trying to advocate for don't know I I believe her Lopez cherishes during a great thing I went to about.
-- -- -- -- -- -- That seems to be the situation which refiners -- Yes and and that's what -- Happens with linguists when they trying to change.
Manipulate -- about with ideologues pursuing a political agenda absolutely absolutely and think why do you turns up in and I -- I was spending -- for this segment.
Thing about these state tax on people -- trying to get.
You know.
People to rethink that nobody knew it -- know was for the wealthy so nobody was really interested.
Link -- Ben said what's called the death everybody knew -- wasn't.
-- now I -- It so.
That's where people are coming from when they're trying to redefine certain words they're trying to impact -- -- from people and impact behavior.
It's incumbent upon psychotherapists.
And those in the national media always hold a critical of these efforts to change language and their -- far.
Two critical examination what you think we should examine everything -- let's do that I think you know we should -- together you've -- -- all the time see you next week at.
