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You can't get hired -- the unemployed be allowed to sue.
More jobless workers are alleging discrimination by businesses during the hiring process.
And New York City may become the latest place to let them take a business to court over it.
-- follow in the footsteps of organic New Jersey and Washington DC with more states looking to adopt similar measures.
But is this creating a -- for businesses trying to hire and should be allowed to begin.
Happen he allowed after to begin -- With me now are Dan Mitchell rich Benjamin welcome back to the show both of you gentlemen I think this might be a little bit of a heated conversation -- start with EO.
This sounds a bit absurd to vehicle issue because you don't get a job because you've been out of work isn't that just.
That's just you know you just -- upgrade.
Later -- a lot but what worries me more about this proposal is that if you've been unemployed for a long time.
You probably are a little bit radioactive to -- big if they wonder why has this person been out of work.
Do they not have good work -- did not show up on time -- they steal from the company.
So -- -- already starting with all these liabilities and it's very unfortunate for the people that are honest hard working.
I just want a fair chance.
But what happens when the government -- that potential employee who wants to get a job into a legal liability.
Then you're gonna have companies -- I think going out of their way trying to make sure that somehow those people.
Don't even come through the door -- nobody wants some this slip and fall lawyer to come sue them just on the basis that they hired person hey.
-- -- a person being.
So -- -- first set yourself up where where do you fall on this issue.
Eight totally disagree Sandra with Dan and he's making these you shouldn't -- -- -- If you've been out of work and you feel a business didn't hire you because of senators now what we're talking about he's making these people sound like they're criminals and that's why they're out of work.
No let up and keep saying that allowing at this you -- -- for dry air active that hire the unemployed because businesses would try not to get these people exit or his her.
Exactly the mentality that these people are worried about he called them radioactive many people are unemployed.
Because they've been outsourcing downsize solicits habitat for -- OK so they're legitimate reasons why they unemployed in this rough economy.
Now when employers say we're not even -- -- consider you would -- it cost your resume out simply because you've been unemployed.
He literally say that you're unemployed -- not ready by even -- -- -- -- all -- -- times if you talking with a resume that shows that you spend.
Out of work and for a few years.
I would employer will look at that and you'll be a red flag and -- say what have you been you.
With talking about protecting a class of people who and businesses are saying you need not apply simply because you've been yeah packet here.
But I guess I sort of agree what the other -- there I'm not implying that these people are bad may be only 5% are bad but employers are looking to hire the best possible people.
And if you have someone has been unemployed for a year at another person who simply trying to climb the ladder.
You probably think it's safer to go with the person is trying to climb the ladder and the one thing that we.
Really worries me.
Is that if you put in some new protect -- class for these unemployed people then.
Employers are gonna -- like that before they're gonna do everything they can not have anything to do with the long term unemployed at.
I want to help these people I want a vibrant growing economy to help these people that back and.
Work -- -- government dependent we can all agree and that -- so so so rich to Dan's point.
Think that the comes just wants the best person for the job -- lawsuits to get in the way of then picking.
The best person and -- suing frenzy that could be a -- So my -- mostly frenzy if you want the best people for your child -- what these states are talking about is don't.
Wholesale say these people are not qualified simply because they've been unemployed.
And so if they're not discriminating what do they have to be worried about -- this fate of these laws.
-- -- while we all discriminate every single day when you choose a spouse you're discriminating.
Anytime an employer hire someone -- they're discriminating -- all the people who didn't get hired so what we're really talking about.
Is is there a case of unjustified discrimination is -- -- -- deliberately passing over better qualified person and.
This does is want to make money I don't -- they would only do that by accident not on purpose.
All new challenge rich how how -- in in court would you even prove that you were discriminated against because you are.
Get hired because they didn't you know think indeed didn't like your experience -- like the last job you're -- -- like to track record.
He necessarily tell you why they didn't hire you a lot of for.
Less lawsuits -- -- well that's horrible when you're in this catch 22 if we don't know why you haven't gotten a job so the standard you're talking about the challenge -- tighten about is intent.
Can you find -- smoking gun where employers say we have the intent.
Disqualifying this whole group of people simply because they haven't been employed so an individual cases you don't always now.
But in them -- -- is it's a matter of establishing the attempt of the business.
And I -- I mean I'm.
I want that person for the job whatever company it is what -- -- company am invested in the company I'm working for.
The best person for the job and I don't want companies to be fearful they're gonna get student hired the wrong person.
But that's my concern.
I suspect in many cases the long term unemployed person is.
The best option -- -- hungry get back on their feet they don't wanna be a -- sure off government that and they want to work.
But if you have the government combined with a budget trial lawyers making it feel that the long term unemployed are potential that you limitless liability for our company.
Then what -- -- billiard as higher from with and you're gonna that you're gonna subcontract.
You're gonna avoid the long term unemployed when the government does something that they may be doing.
For the best of reasons because we all care about the long term unemployed.
But you have to think about the unintended consequences of government intervention so let's get -- words -- -- -- I think we've really heard both sides of this story.
And use say what.
Is what I say we all want the best people -- the job sometimes the best people in the jobs are those within them unemployed for a long time sometimes not.
But we just want to be sure that in this economy that people are getting a fair shake and whole groups of people aren't just being tossed out.
We've we've seen evidence of this in by the way if -- -- presently unemployed get tossed -- he -- chemical business card because you -- consultant.
When you know forklift operator.
When you manage a restaurant when you do all these kinds of things they don't have the options like that.
And so they've been unemployed for a long time and we just want to look out.
Right and it's over expense -- thank you gentlemen for a very.
This argument that we -- both sides there.
-- -- idiotic things.
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