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Father Jonathan Morris, ABC Radio’s Bernard McGuirk, FOX News Radio’s Alan Colmes and Deirdre Imus debate the legality of abortion.
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Laws Sola made talked of while -- start referral got to discuss.
Glad to -- in the notes at times some fundamental and fundamental issues that everybody talks about -- -- president talk about.
Law and supposed to Fortis incited.
A -- -- senator -- remuneration of the water closer to merge them.
I'm support teachers are leaders that -- -- Anyway all let me first -- just for your for your bureau.
Your -- your initial.
All of position on abortion -- real.
Well I'm -- I really think -- but -- -- the conservative position of the government stay out of it should be an issue between a woman her.
God her family and a physician and that the government should not be involve only to but the government as a blog generous sector of a supportive anniversary up.
A Roe vs.
-- -- everywhere -- -- perhaps -- historic -- and 73 Supreme Court decision.
Overturning a Texas interpretation of abortion law.
-- making an abortion legal and United States and additionally you can get an abortion on the rural very waited in the first trimester for any recent.
And many us a second or third trimester.
I -- you have to have a recent concert -- -- -- -- -- cents Roe vs.
-- was enacted.
There have done an estimated 55.
Million.
Abortions and hamsters freshman -- -- I don't noble abortions legal.
Until just no actually my position is pro life flow with the exceptions falter and -- and against abortion under -- -- will people use that argument saying well what -- -- the life of the mother.
So with the baby's life doesn't matter so the mother gets to choose her life over the baby I don't see how that's right morally writer and you're far more -- of fundamental position -- -- Roe vs.
Wade was very bad constitutional law and even approach -- Constitutional lawyers would say that now most of them.
And I think it's not a question of policy good question of whether or not a human fetus.
Physician in being.
And I think common sense says yes and if so -- the government's responsibility to protect all human -- I'm position is to be.
Are used to be pro choice.
Until I got to thank them.
My position used to -- about my position now it is.
Attempt at that instant of conception.
If if at any time from the time that they do the little -- -- caller who.
Analysts night he thinks is not a -- god given thing that's called sex.
Couple can't so.
It took time into the such thing.
And C disown him for.
If you do anything between that moment.
And nine months later and -- -- -- you don't have a human being so.
The argument that wonders of fears of status of that is irrelevant I think -- -- -- -- -- If you gonna -- -- murders of people -- -- that's a human being and if we have -- and as an abortion you basically killing human being if that's a position would you then have to.
Lock up.
Charged with murder both doctors who perform abortions and women who have them if that's your position than we should we have the death penalty.
To women or put on trial for first degree murder doctors who perform abortions if that's a position than the gift to follow through legally by doing that very thing.
And what -- yes in theory you going to let women in January right now doctors a jet apparently Alan it's legal unfortunately.
Of killing a baby in the -- is legal.
You may think it well it is legally should and shouldn't you hate it shouldn't be that you take apply that -- may -- in the blown different than when it's out.
Out of the world -- one -- I can't Y 81 thing you can exist out of -- for one thing.
That's not an independent entity it lifts off the body of the model to host body.
And you gonna make -- -- woman's womb the ward of the state for nine months because the state now controlled island you might have -- for just a moment you know I.
I think it's first of all this an extremely emotional issue in this as just just says side Don said 55 million abortions we had a -- -- for -- words.
When we talk about you know I don't know but -- -- have not recognize that we're talking to keep fall.
Among us as a nation of not only mothers -- fathers who have had abortions and of the fact is that.
The decision to make this a privacy issue it's understandable when -- bad science this is what we could call the ultrasound.
Generation.
That will -- side based on science that you know -- Is hard is it is.
When -- -- tough situation to have a child the problem is it's a child.
Other Irish spectrum position -- understand it's -- very difficult and emotional when you of course commitment religious perspective and it's a very very different idea they'll look at a whole and I also outfitted as a separate religion but I also think it's very personal decision and one.
That should not be dictated to by the government when -- -- should be able to operate without government.
Most rational people would say it will would agree that abortion is not a good thing that's -- to -- aborted fetus and any circumstances not a very good thing but father John mentioned common sense.
Common sense does dictated that the lesser of two weevils -- a woman's life is let's say a woman's life is in danger after she was raped now.
And she can have an abortion she's gotta have -- -- -- baby and that and die on top of it.
I mean that you have to have some UBS -- reasonable common sense dictates that in that case for example.
Yes you would you would have to would say go to -- to do the the you know not the unthinkable but something that you that the distasteful let's.
I know that and I think that if you ask any woman.
Or women all women that it had abortions.
He's 55 abortion for a -- 55 million abortions.
They don't brag about it they don't wanna talk about it where there are embarrassed by it there they have deep sorrow they think about it.
For the rest of their lives -- there's something to that and it's not so they do feel it is a baby they do feel that fetus is a little human being growing and so.
When you asked when you ask men and women who had been a product of -- who have been given the chance of life.
What they think about those extreme circumstances they say.
My mother and my father.
If the father were somehow got back and -- life did eight courageous thing.
On in -- to have life.
Well mother who has been raped and was allowed their child is hard is it could be its.
In my may be a seventeen year old girl whose life is -- and she might dialect is -- she was raped your life visually -- yeah -- principal you have to say.
There are exceptions you have to say -- -- certain exceptions that would allow for that and -- -- that's my position you have to allow for that is tied to delay our man on the national subtitle of the customer and at least.
Program where she's an argument not humorous not a -- -- but I'm matter -- but it.
-- -- enemy is that even -- it's a law the land still provides a country.
Well and -- Jane question public I mean there are other things -- -- -- become law as a result of Supreme Court decision.
But don't revival and and they because when you didn't have a legal try to Roe vs.
-- women would go to -- they would bleed to death of times -- they itself -- now is a terrible thing to have hesitating and there we talk of a 55 -- but there weren't millions of -- abortions.
Even prior to that and they were done by -- -- -- elevated what's about what's good public policy is really the question contrary.
From some people in the United States and fortunate to have little -- who has been now let's make this safe legal and rare -- what Governor Cuomo.
Just presented.
As a new law proposal.
The Nikkei abortion legal in this state.
In the third trimester.
But that's a decision to doctor makes with the patient -- -- in that third trimester Al.
I'm after the dog until I'm away with the got a particularly if it's killing a baby gonna put people in prison so my third trimester you don't think that's -- I don't -- it's anybody's business what a woman Charny is very good at the nursery are all else like them that they need at least -- Ahead of its weapons -- let's get let's go to journalists along let's get on an hour but I mean yeah.
Apparently flawed what you're saying it so that all Arnold clearer did not say look gorgeous night and that's why it's -- down the and it under the -- souvenir of environment.
Speaking -- the -- I think she's she's in the third try manager totally it's above are easy address it's almost always done.
When there's a medical reason to do it people who are just women are pregnant for seven or eight months with nobody it's a I think eleven abortion today as if women are reasonable notes those are not sure why -- is down for the most current.
Aluminum -- aren't -- to start getting some fact sentiment -- there are women that do it out of -- selling it and -- it doesn't fit their life's that I don't -- hour here on out yes they have this don't know woman Deirdre and a cemeteries month of their pregnancy.
To suddenly decide to doesn't have to lifestyle -- Nevada about not -- I'm talk.
National -- -- -- I'm about what does -- amount.
Abortions in general.
They are done for that reason because -- distributed until academy for abortions and we're gonna let me -- -- -- -- when we're talking about third trimester abortion.
Try to fall along thank --
