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Term crowd funding didn't even exist a couple of years ago but now it does and how will crowd funding affect the public and private markets.
Our next guest is anticipating a major shift as companies increasingly move away from the -- be regulated costly public markets to private markets -- money from strange.
-- and private markets which are a lot less regulated lot less costly for company -- is the SEC prepares to issue new regulations about all this will they be able to maintain.
That balance between public and private markets joining us now is Daniel DeVore fire his Milken Institute director.
A financial markets policy and legal counsel great to see -- Dana thanks for coming in.
Yeah had a wonderful -- is why we got chided that -- that piece in the Wall Street Journal called who needs Wall Street was very provocative.
And essentially talks about the crowd funding vis a vis that the new jobs act which allows for much more freedom.
For companies to to issue stock in the private sector is opposed to the public markets which are much more highly regulated so.
How would you balance out what could what can you do if you issue in the private sector -- -- can't do in the public sector.
And -- first and foremost thank you for inviting -- your program.
And you look that -- jobs act is it is a bill let's focused on improving capital access for American companies especially startups and small businesses.
It was a bill that sailed through congress with overwhelming bipartisan support but really seems to have flown under the radar of many market participants and observers.
-- it does mark a major change in securities laws and as you're mentioning here.
To -- the ways that it does that are by one of making private capital markets even more robust in liquid.
And secondly by legalizing securities crowd funding for the general public so Dana let me just let me let me -- quickly intercede because.
Usually we talk about more regulations is a bad thing this was a new.
Regulatory structure that really could benefit private companies in America.
Yet that's right so what title two of the jobs act -- it's gonna change the way that companies market private securities.
To wealthy investors and financial institutions.
Basically a private security doesn't have to go through costly SEC registration.
An -- which is a time consuming process as well.
And it allows it allows companies to raise money without much regulatory oversight so it is much more cost effective for them.
What the jobs act -- is it lifts the ban on general solicitation for these securities and what that means is companies for the first time.
We'll be able to mass market the securities to wealthy investors and financial institutions.
And this could be a bit of the game changer as new investors enter the marketplace and provide more liquidity in private markets so if your company.
And you're looking to raise money you may opt to -- private capital markets and defer or put off altogether -- going to public markets through an initial public offering.
And -- you don't even have to fly to sand hill road in Silicon Valley to do -- -- the old way was to sit there and -- the venture capitalists are the Angel investors out there but now.
It's kind of impressive that that an act out of DC was really helpful to businesses that -- -- be created.
What kind of job creation do you see eventually down the broad -- not -- -- sacirbey instantaneous but.
If all of these companies and ideas out there can finally get some funding without going through these onerous regulations.
What does this really mean for job creation.
Well look this this could definitely be a boon for private capital formation especially in private markets.
And then we talk about general.
Public crowd funding.
That's another avenue where average investors will be able to our average citizens will be able to investor crowd -- platforms into start -- and small businesses and we're talking about.
Local community mom and pop shops -- restaurants.
These kinds of businesses that have been starved of capital whether it's because of tight credit markets or because as you say it's been very hard to get money from traditional investors.
This new -- this this ability to tap multiple smaller investors an aggregate capital.
Could be a bit of a game changer.
They certainly will be able to grow and expand their businesses but look on the flip side -- what the SEC is grappling with as well.
Is putting in place proper regulations imbalances to make sure that investor protections are are in place as well because we are changing the way no -- formation of taking it.
Break up an interesting point because I think greater freedom always means greater risk.
And many people are always -- this is a risk adverse administration the Obama administration so there.
They spent a lot of time worrying about the risk that investors in tail.
Won't it won't this sort of eventually demand a whole new set of regulations.
For example on on how you resells some of these -- register rated securities unregistered securities.
Yet look -- -- great question and I will say that you know what made the jobs -- so unique is that it truly was a bipartisan effort.
You don't -- the Obama administration was very much so behind that that jobs act and especially public crowd funding but there's no question.
That there are gonna have to be proper checks in place.
Hi there title three of the jobs act that deals with public crowd funding already does have some restrictions in place there -- limits on how much capital can be raised.
And how much individual investors are allowed to actually invest so that kinda limits the downside risk.
But with the private capital markets and we're talking about wealthy investors.
What we -- what we see is -- there eight point six million accredited investors in the US.
But only 3% of them are currently investing in startups and small businesses so now when you can mass market to these folks.
There's no question that some of these you know.
Sophisticated investors or at least -- the SEC prisons are sophisticated may not be so sophisticated so the question is do we need to put in place and baseline regulations.
That allow proper information disclosure disclosure so that people can make sound investment decisions -- -- nice to know though they can do something.
Right inside the -- occasionally -- sat once and awhile they get it right.
Daniel notified great to see it Daniel he's one of those token genius and it's really watch over things -- make sure we do the right things down to DC good to see it.
I appreciate it thanks to the conversation -- Mike and again we say hello had a lot of what's.