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Border Security a Must in Immigration Reform?

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    Rep. Trey Gowdy, (R-SC), on efforts to reform immigration policy.

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Griffin turning now to the battle over immigration reform a new ABC Washington Post poll shows.

83%.

Support stricter border control only 15%.

Are opposed.

Meanwhile 55%.

Also favor a path to citizenship.

For illegal -- only 41%.

-- there was no question in that poll about whether border security should proceed in the path to citizenship.

But our next guest chairs hearings on the critical issue in several other immigration proposals and reliably strong boys and at all.

He's congressman trade -- Member of the Judiciary Committee chairman of the subcommittee on immigration and border security and -- Well it's good to have you with us congressman.

The bipartisan.

-- gang of eight has preceded with its work.

The Judiciary Committee.

As begun its process.

Are you.

If you will -- assistance of your either hoped or skepticism about -- a result at this point.

Closing -- -- -- hearing this week especially with the tone I'll I'll was not around in 2006 or 2007.

When they last -- To solve.

Our immigration quagmire but I was very encouraged with the tone of the hearing there was a lot of civility.

But make no mistake there are some sharp differences that does -- mean there are irreconcilable with there are some.

Sharp difference as you mentioned in the poll and and mayor Castro who by the way out poll was there really really good witness for the Democrats -- -- -- him so he's the mayor senatorial charming.

-- very charming engaging Smart.

Up man but we also.

Elicited from -- That the only path to legal status that will satisfy him as full fledged citizenship.

And he represented that that's a compromise.

I don't -- a compromise between who goes out no one is advocating for full -- citizenship without a background check.

So no matter how or -- the path to citizenship there are there going to be some folks.

Who don't -- all of the eleven million.

To a -- a full panoply of all of of citizenship rights and and frankly Lou summoned the eleven million don't have any desire to be citizens they just -- -- work and they legally.

Way so -- -- would be something we have to reconcile.

The biggest thing we have to -- solace this.

-- -- -- conservative district but it has a very high political acumen they remember 1986.

They remember that they were told what we're gonna do this amnesty one time.

Never be an issue book again last conversation we ever have as a country we're gonna secure the border and have -- pulled the verification.

And we did doing to -- So and -- the border secure analyst we have a real employment verification.

Usually not that which use talking about the path to legal status.

Part of what is your reaction when you hear senator Chuck Schumer say that it is the judgment.

-- -- of them the gang of eight.

That Janet a -- -- on the area secretary of Homeland Security should be the one who arbitrary -- whether about the border is secure or not.

Having already but -- saved.

Exactly that.

Who -- torture reaction that you know an employee of the president would be.

The one pulling the trigger if you will.

Lower your try to get me in trouble and I'm gonna go to -- is trying to get to the truth partner.

Janet Napolitano is the same person who's testified before judiciary and oversight that we currently have operational control the border.

Are not withstanding the fact of 2008 case forty -- went from Phoenix stormed the Mexican drug cartel.

And notwithstanding Lou the fact that -- kilos of cocaine is cheaper today that it was what I was a federal prosecutor so we've got.

Drugs coming from Mexico into the United States we've got AK forty -- going from Phoenix to Mexico.

And she wants me to believe that we have operational control the border are just say right now are low Marco Rubio I'll love Lindsay a -- Jeff flake.

But -- and Apollo Tonto is not going to be the person who decides whether or not we have full fledged border security.

The house -- was born.

At night but it was not last night.

You know used charts about 2006 and 2007.

-- and that Ted Kennedy and John McCain move forward with that that legislation comprehensive immigration reform.

They're most horrific mistake they made was trying to -- the American people.

The civility or no.

If this is an early indicator on the part of senator Schumer that he has by the way who has I think been constructive and positive in many of the talks on.

If that's an early indication that they are going to game the system.

It will be.

A betrayal of the interest of those her in this country illegally through the rate -- we all seek.

Two to move forward with rational effective humane changes our immigration laws but I have to say that's dispiriting to see that.

Better hurt you can if it was recanted by -- -- sector.

Congress right I think -- -- -- -- -- Well I was gonna say -- -- US slightly differently are kind of view it is if you if you and our playing bridge that's is opening.

Bid is we're gonna have -- The head of Homeland Security certified.

Our response would be we're gonna have a commission noble -- -- officers.

-- border state governors.

And others.

And we're gonna have triggers and they're going to be economic trigger -- I think -- is under rubio things.

Which under -- -- -- was.

The concept.

Onto which -- -- at least.

-- congressman we're we're all worked were comforted by the fact that you'll have a strong role on all of this and we appreciate -- being with us here tonight.

Congressman -- yeah.

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