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Tonight -- showdown between Tuesday Texans vs California.
Which is a better place to live in California has better weather but that's not good results -- If -- -- break it down to that.
-- he tried to ask people in City Hall what happened -- my hair.
Good job prospects are far better in Texas -- true Texas is.
What about freedom.
For Texas do we have the freedom to arm themselves.
Partly thanks to this -- her parents were murdered execution -- -- -- -- -- Forgot it didn't look a little bit -- a lot of rabid -- -- contrast pictures Ashton buying a handgun in California is no simple task.
-- is getting a license to open a business it's 12.
Texas vs California.
That's our show today.
20% of you.
One in five Americans lives in either Texas or California.
California's the biggest state Texas a sack.
And California is the dream for many Americans those beautiful beaches movie stars great weather.
Its population grew at more than double the national average until 1990s.
Then something changed last decade two million more Americans moved out of California -- moved in.
Many moved to other states like Texas in the last decade Texas -- -- population grew at double the national rate.
And one of those those Texans destructive war he used to be a California politician now he's the author of the Texas model.
Which argues the Texas governs better.
Matt Welch of reason magazine also moved from California but his magazine is still based there so.
Why is that if you're getting now you -- California's so bad.
-- is a reason magazine my favorite magazine in this horrible state.
Well not so what we've been since 1971.
And it informs us thinking that gets us a little bit outside of the -- kind of beltway -- Acela.
Track of thinking but it's it's a challenge to be there.
Anyone -- California these days and hear exactly right to point out it's a new thing in California.
We no longer -- tracked.
Immigrants like -- there's still some think thriving there's them.
The tech industry the movie industry stuff is happening and absolutely California does have a lot of -- it has Silicon Valley it does have Hollywood it has the Biotech industry.
The problem is that you can't live off of those narrow bands of industry four ever and what's happening is that because of high taxes.
Unhealthy lawsuit climate and a lot of government spending.
People are leaving the state it started in the ninety's Gray Davis.
Said we've got -- this cash from the dotcom boom.
And who he well tell me what happened.
Well first -- he spent the dot com cash on public sector.
Pension promises and just general spending to everybody even in the last five years of so called austerity spending -- continue to go up.
Up beyond inflation and population growth yes new thing global -- -- measures for high speed rail projects that no one means no one wants.
Yeah it will cost 68 billion dollars and even Arnold the Republican.
The terminator I thought really I fell in love at one point 5% politician quoting Milton Friedman this is a guy who gets set.
He'll make it better.
What happened well what happened was he helped enact the largest tax increase -- -- -- history the state level in 2009.
It was so bad that I resigned as chief Republican whip in the state assembly in protest of the tax increase.
And he also supported governments funds to fund stem cell research.
I talked to the guy pushing this one Susan Rich businessman he's I said you billionaires can pay for this by -- -- why assistant government job.
He was only government job because people want to stick Democrats want to stick a bomb.
In the -- and George W.
Bush which -- same.
Other global warming emission standard -- -- an expensive way to say we are not Republicans we're California it's on borrowed money.
And and three a couple years later I read in the papers hole.
This organization has to be revamped we suspect self dealing or conflict of -- -- All this money is wasted in yet now lawyer -- I balanced the budget says the government.
Yeah well they just passed by the ballot initiative one of the largest tax increases and tax the rich they've increased taxes -- fifty million -- so yes suddenly he's gonna look a lot more.
Balance there but they're also life.
I mean they're talking about -- -- -- revenue projections that will not come true it's an annual tradition in California.
-- budget looks balanced in January when you propose it and then when the revenues -- are coming -- you say oh there's a shortfall that shortfall can be eight billion dollars it has been as high as thirty billion dollars in recent years we'll see that happening.
Brett chuck you've moved to Texas it -- say this couldn't be more interest in lab experiment when you me.
Well because the states are so similar right you have the the biggest state in the second biggest state in population.
The second and third biggest state in land mass they're both demographically very diverse more similar than different.
They both are blessed with quite a few natural resources and a coastline with ports and so.
With everything so similar on the surface what you have to look at -- is -- -- the result so different and of course the results are different.
Because they're governed differently.
Government at the state and local level consumes about a third more of the economy.
In California than it does in Texas in that.
With that extra government you have things like 13 of the nation's welfare recipients are in California even though they only have 18 of the population.
-- more regulations more taxes.
Where we have a graph of the welfare recipients percentage of households receiving public assistance.
Much higher in California and then then the US average and lower than average in Texas.
Absolutely and but that just means you're starving poor people up.
Well not so the cost of living in Texas is 42%.
Less than the cost of living in California and -- point of fact.
The US Census Bureau has been criticized by congress for twenty years for not taking into account cost of living.
The fact that different states.
Have different possibly when it comes to housing and food and clothing and that's relevant when you look at the poverty rate -- there was an old poverty rate -- Where.
Texas lost to California 16% of the people in.
-- California were in poverty 17%.
In Texas but now there's a new measure that includes.
The costs and limit it does include the cost living and also includes some government benefits.
And with this new measure that came out just one week after the election.
What you see is that the state with the highest poverty rate in the nation.
Is California higher even in the District of Columbia.
And -- and that should really be a warning or caution to progressives who.
Maintain that this big government model is really the path to prosperity.
We argue that it's entirely the opposite that in fact Texas is a model.
For how America could be better run and there could be more prosperity by having less government has been more job growth in Texas Texas gained past ten years more than a million jobs California lost about half a million jobs.
But Paul Krugman.
Says in the near times.
What's this Texas miracles.
This -- Governor Perry was running for president does know it's an all -- miracle.
The Texas unemployment rate was eight point 2% eight point 2% isn't great but California at the time was eleven point 8%.
California's had over 10% unemployment.
Every month of Barack Obama's presidency.
And tell basically last November.
And it's still 3% higher than Texas yes and it's it's been higher is in California than the national average every month since 1990.
You freer in Texas always a huge difference in fact it was so bad in California that the Democrats allowed just want to be past that.
Sought to find the cost of regulations on small business and when it came out Governor Schwarzenegger so embarrassed he didn't want to come out.
Finally we pressured for it to come out the cost on the average business in California for regulatory compliance.
There's a 133000.
Dollars per year the legislature passes on average around 900 bills a year loss here you -- governor.
93 and day or even for a day when they're in session the Texas legislature isn't in its new session every two years is that right every two years for a 13840.
Days right they just don't have enough time in the kind of loss of the passing California they're saying you can't as a parent hire a psychiatrist.
To trying to make your -- not -- means that level.
Of crazy specificity wearing my release -- that went for a moment because I've covered these gay -- Psychiatrists.
And I think it's non -- sure.
But it should be your right to pursue something that should this theory right at and it shouldn't be the right of the legislature -- tell you.
What kind of things you need to do and and -- could ever increasing the bad penalties the finds.
We're throwing citrus on -- Minor League Baseball field seriously that was a law passed a couple of years ago this is the level of of the wave that legislatures and I didn't vote for -- and and if you're one of these big tech companies FaceBook or Google you could navigate these regulation -- you hire attorneys you hire tax experts you attack hire compliance experts.
That help navigate through this bureaucratic maze a good example is if you want to build a strip mall.
It takes just to get permission to break ground and start construction it takes four to five months on average in taxes.
It takes four to five years on average in California.
And that's one of the things that helps drive up the cost of housing and business complexes in factories in California.
-- it this is obvious to me looking from the outside.
One works the other doesn't work as well for its people.
But the politicians are.
Unfair it's what is -- about well part of it is that you have a great home field advantage in California.
Which is that it's an awful nice place to land especially along the -- it's in its specially nice if you work in one of the highlight industries and then.
Everywhere else in the hinterlands it's a lot of desperation poverty and population just leaking and running away and so that.
Part of the coast can generate incredible wealth dynamism it's fun -- -- the work in those industries right but the rest of the state is having a much harder time and they don't have the political clout.
Well there there's another issue as -- that comes to playing California and that California is not a right to work state they have very powerful unions especially government unions.
Then there's no counterpart to that in Texas.
People are free to have their associations.
And the unions aren't there to spend millions and millions of dollars to promote bigger government and higher taxes.
Hence more prosperity in Texas thank you Matt and -- Coming not want a free car.
We'll tell you how -- certain government benefits -- But next gun control Texas vs California.
This Texas everybody has gotten my florist hasn't gotten.
That scene from the movie miss congeniality.
-- truth tour -- want to buy a -- in Texas it's easy.
Know Texas restrictions just a federal background check.
In three aging getting -- California has lots of restrictions like waiting periods and assault weapons ban.
After the recent school shooting in Connecticut California politicians propose more rules.
They want to make hundreds of thousands of previously legal guns illegal on their owners would have to give them to the government.
By contrast in Texas some politicians want to make it easier for teachers to carry guns in school.
What a terrible idea -- California State senator Leland -- he joins us from San Francisco welcome.
Also are hurting me John thank you from Texas Susanna hop who likes the idea of teachers' packing heat and so Suzanne I'll watch.
I guess you could probably say because of my background I know what it's like to be in -- defense both situation with a crazed shooter that the just there to execute people look.
Lawyers can protect themselves on the job teachers are are are Harold crackers can protect them from pat themselves on the job so why can't our teachers protect themselves on the job.
Should be treated like second class citizens.
And and let's review your background about this years ago.
You were in a Luby's restaurant when a gunman came here and killed your mom and dad and that made you well until 23 people.
That was the first real mass shooting in this country back in 1991 that would be -- we made a lot of people say I want tougher gun laws but you say the opposite.
And you've written the book live from -- to the legislature.
One woman's fight against gun control.
-- -- explain your reason.
At that time in the state of Texas he couldn't get a concealed carry permit.
They didn't exist -- -- began leaving my gun in my car very dutifully and my parents and I were having.
-- A mad man drove his truck in the wind all and began executing people.
And I gotta tell idea I I can't begin to tell you what it's like to be like the fish in a barrel waiting for it to be your turn.
The only thing that the gun laws did was prevent me and some others in that restaurant for being -- to protect ourselves.
And our families.
So -- year I assume you move strongly disagree with this.
Make your are used to work.
-- I used to work in the school.
As a psychologist and I would tell you.
I don't know of any teacher or administrator that wants to carry a gun into a classroom into -- school.
In -- start doing.
That would schools then why not look at supermarkets why don't.
We look at hospitals where there's -- -- plays there finding that -- -- have a -- that's not the way.
That's not the way in which we want to operate in our society here in California you know we were were about educating kids.
We're not -- telling kids to go and pack guns and shoot him out if someone comes.
Into your school's.
-- Who are not talking about the children being able to carry weapons.
We're talking about the people that can already carry weapons in the supermarket says he says all we're talking about doing noble and necessary and in the.
We adults are saying to kids that when you are a child and you grow up to solve your problem carry -- -- And that is not the life lesson ought to be teaching chill out -- horrendous weather especially finally settle the -- -- -- ready.
The police carry guns I guarantee.
And and that's -- I police ought to Kerry got and they are there to protect the people of California California has all these gun restrictions.
But there are more murders in California per capita than Texas the gun laws don't work.
Not no that's actually not true you know studies upon studies have demonstrated.
That the states that have jurisdictions that have.
The toughest gun laws.
Are the ones that are the safest per capita that's an asset -- -- They're not saying that it's absolutely wrong Chicago Washington DC look at look at today California cities like all all -- -- is per capita when when you look at the per capita it stayed up.
That it is absolutely true that jurisdictions would toughest gun control are in fact the safest and -- and the reality.
Alcoa has the -- -- -- and -- -- -- for Stockton the eleven highest murder rate hang on Suzanne I just want that.
Seems to be good -- against the fact -- how do you explain Stockton per capita and Oakland the highest murder rate among the highest murder rates in the nation.
Know what what -- what I'm saying is that if you look at the entire state.
If you look at the entire jurisdiction.
That's what we're talking about you can't look at knows the city you know individuals cities and so.
Because that of course is that it is what -- think this is the data on the whole thing they look at -- I'd like to -- -- questioned -- he can you name one single place in the United States were one of these mass shootings has occurred.
Where guns were allowed.
Because of -- -- the problem why are we seeing these mass shootings at the dreaded gun show that you all are trying to make illegal.
Or NRA can look lovely yet even got a lot of you know on the -- You talk in this -- where there -- thousands of guns in the hands of of law abiding citizens.
Yet we always in the in the past rulings by shooting guns are there -- -- -- are there.
And that does not stop those young individuals from coming in the column by.
And shooting and slaughtering individual what what that's all I'm not saying that -- was having not gotten.
Is not gonna stop all these other individuals.
Coming into a school coming into a playground and -- reminds -- -- -- children.
We've got a -- other real ways of dealing with this but the.
In Texas we already have several schools where the administrators he mentioned earlier that no teachers and no administrators would want to carry.
On the contrary we have several teachers and administrators that already -- Kerry in some well.
Well you know I think I don't know attacks -- are already -- -- and if you're always gonna I'm wondered to administrators here and there.
But overall when -- asked the question teachers do wanna pack guns going into your classroom.
The answered resoundingly is no no children you know the politicians don't how would involve all too accurate to say I'm -- be carrying a gun if -- -- -- -- alliance.
Forcing teachers to carry a gun what you politicians have to get involved I say the teacher who wants to -- it makes her safer.
She may not.
Now if you happen to be a teacher.
And you goal and purchase a -- And you want to go through the background checks and so on ultimately you're gonna have a -- you -- have a school in California it's okay with you.
No no absolutely not you know could carry guns in this school went all out should students are to carry guns why are we -- let teachers carry.
Making it a killing -- guns CEO is making a gun killing our schools -- gun free zone.
What what we're not yeah and that's exactly how -- -- I don't know where they want to rat we're learning what I can count is the gun free zone.
That's where they rack up big body -- counts that's where they -- out in an inning when we're not gonna solve this where where guys.
Charlotte on thank you both I have to stop you Cezanne hop Leland -- Coming up what happens when your town goes bankrupt.
And what else can we learn comparing Texas and California.
But people do leave hotel California these days -- they can't pay the bills for California cities -- now declared bankruptcy.
Stocked in the big -- then San Bernardino.
The result isn't pretty.
The community is solely breaking down and that their businesses that are now empty lots that are -- he.
American lives better and -- with the person that you are going to live in now and there's an opportunity there's nothing that's what helps out here.
Three fourths of the city's money went to what they called public safety and that means unionized cops and firemen.
Politicians promised them much more money than the town -- Sell to the people in San Bernardino realize that's the reason the town went belly up well.
This -- special correspondent Kennedy went there to ask and heard that even bankruptcy people light cops and firefighters.
We're not contributing.
Firefighters who is watching heroes -- DC -- what's I don't blame anyone -- particulars is better things -- -- Course of years.
This next man is in the prison guards union California prison guards make 66000.
Dollars a year.
People felt we knew we game so much.
You know and coming -- give anything back because you don't think unions know go.
Yeah us we can lead you right in the union dues but we don't know you believe the union dues we keep your attention and we'll.
-- -- of course in the pensions make that 66000.
Pay close to a 100000 dollars they're big and -- Yeah and and the firefighters and San Bernadine their salary has doubled and now they make a 150000.
Dollars a year.
People weren't upset -- well I would say ignorance is bliss but now on their seem very happy semi gain that added doesn't hold true for San Bernardino.
Well Kennedy -- the mayor's office to be a place to go to learn more about what caused the bankruptcy so she tried that.
That's San Bernardino City Hall at some really nice building that looks really expensive which might be part of the problem.
Go get -- answer.
There must be people in -- working seven days a week to solve these problems.
Can't -- six.
I walked down an empty hallway looking for the mayor.
Looking for anyone I felt like I was -- a -- -- was creeping.
-- I care.
-- So I found an empty conference room and decided I would take over his -- I everyone thanks for coming and it's really great to have you here I am the acting there.
Not a lot happening does anyone have any pain that I shouldn't -- be looking out on the run them via agenda and show him.
-- not all of us.
Amber -- we have a lot of problems.
-- out of people I want.
Lot of businesses was shuttered doors.
And I don't hear any news Romania well.
Aren't that they were supposed to be in the office that it can't spend the mayor is -- supposed to be fully stocked on Friday as there are other agencies that take Friday -- -- -- is less safe the city attorney told residents go home lock your doors and load your -- it's not a way he was there.
And he would not talk to one union blamed the mayor and former city manager that for spending money on -- downtown movie theater.
Yeah of the movie theater is nine east but it's nothing compared to the 45 point eight million dollar deficit that the city of San Bernadine I was running.
And by the way one they file for bankruptcy.
They had a 150000.
Dollars and this Citibank decaf.
The Pettit sand burning a politician said we didn't see it coming.
How could that they owed 46 million dollars they had a 100000 in the bank.
Yes and and they have some payments that there are required to pay in the calpers one point eight million dollars a month.
And they didn't see that comment when -- 150 K in the bank.
And second -- or tried to raise money through fees like.
Expensive parking tickets traffic tickets.
But all the money would just paid more than 4500 dollars on just.
Speeding ticket and they're going back up.
We didn't -- you're going nine -- and -- -- don't.
So he should pay but it's not gonna cover all these pension obligations nothing's gonna -- -- pension obligations on San Bernardino.
Not in Stockton and not delay -- not content on any of these other cities in California they're simply failing finding -- Silver lining I hear that there's more civil society perking up volunteers are doing.
Park maintenance working at the animal shelter replacing broken street lights.
Neighborhood watch associations are starting to blossom to police neighborhoods that's good.
Yeah and they want their city back so they're taking at themselves and it just goes to show.
The private solution is.
And that's what you're gonna have to go to win the government has spent all the money thank you Kennedy next.
We take this same problem that it's bankrupt in San Bernardino and see what it does to the whole state.
California is paradise for government workers.
Per person -- is actually as more of them.
But California pays better and gives out such generous retirement benefits that California will probably go broke.
Some fifty year old retirees were promised they can collect forever.
Well until they -- But actually after that too because -- spouse -- collect after they die and the money just isn't there.
Dan Mitchell study state pension problems nationally for the Cato Institute.
Kevin James is running to be mayor of Los Angeles so before we get to what Kevin discovered in Los Angeles.
How bad is this since it these people want to be responsible I think.
I'm not sure they want to be responsible I think the politicians want to get reelected at.
And the state government workers want to get as much as they can be for the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.
The problem is as California is grease the -- of America there are too many people riding in the wagon not enough people pulling the wagon.
Now they raise taxes or you're gonna see.
The productive people leaving the state and more and more people living -- the government voted for more government but sooner or later.
Nobody's there to pay the bills aren't they pay the workers warned California but California has -- higher cost of living.
It does but even with all that that doesn't justify -- -- between say 50000 dollar average wage salary vs 70000.
In California California is pricing itself out of the market.
Plus the benefits which go into this fund called calpers and they assume.
For years and 8% rate of return -- we're gonna make so much money now they just lowered it.
From seven point 75%.
To seven point 5% like that's responsible.
Where do they get off thinking that they can make that rate of return why is that acceptable.
I would assume an item -- a party with Victoria's Secret supermodels I don't think it's gonna happen now and likewise I don't think that calpers is gonna meet those targets that it set and if they don't meet those targets.
It means -- unfunded liability which is huge already will become enormous and they simply won't be able to pay it in -- same way that Greece hasn't been able to pay its bills.
-- -- Kevin let's talk about Los Angeles here -- You're running for mirror so we won't go -- run your campaign specifically book once -- you told me that astounded me.
Is that the Los Angeles City Council members are paid a 178000.
Dollars per year.
They are the highest paid legislative body in the nation John.
You know we just had a councilwoman.
That Janice Hahn went to congress the House of Representatives and she -- to take -- cut in pay.
They made more money than United States senators for -- Los Angeles City Council Los Angeles each councilman is given a car.
Well each councilman I'll tell you something else -- that really gets angelenos.
They get a car that has a license plate that says exempt so they can parking meters and they don't get tickets.
And in Los Angeles our parking tickets are through the roof and just as you -- talking about in the last segment.
When all of these fines and fees that they keep wanting to take.
From people that come to Los Angeles.
It's not good for business it chases customers away from our city at my local businesses.
And to neighboring communities where they don't get abused by City Hall.
Dollars per year in Los Angeles verses in Dallas 37000.
San Antonio 1400.
Well those are part time does -- part time city council's.
In loss is still get a -- full time council.
It's not like Los -- course they do is so well govern it and put this in perspective nationally is is a mindset in California that says.
Politicians just to work magic and need to be compensated.
I think what happened is during the boom years in California effort for decades after world war until people work just pouring into the state.
It was a lot of opportunity great climate and insurers government -- -- our little bit more to get the great climate California.
But at some point.
He hit the tipping level.
-- Alba sun is just too expensive to create jobs it's too expensive to finance a bloated workforce is too expensive to maintain all these pensions.
-- by the time we -- that level.
If more than 50% of the voters in your state are somehow riding on the wagon.
Are either government welfare beneficiaries government -- -- -- the retired living off government.
How do you ever change and that's what makes me so pessimistic.
A beautiful state that I think is being ruined by big government thank you Dan Mitchell and Kevin James.
So far tonight in the battle between Texas and California Texas is winning but.
When we return a reason Texans should prefer.
Texas is less likely to go broke -- California and they have fewer stupid rules.
Probably they -- have less total regulation but.
Texas does have plenty of control freak politicians and as a result your property may be safer in California.
So says Scott Bullock from the Institute for Justice so.
Why is your property not a safe in taxes well.
Texas has some bad laws with regards to private property rights are civil forfeiture laws or very aggressive and very potent in Texas where the government can take your property.
Even if you've not been convicted were even arrested for crying.
And then the burden is on the property owner to try to get their property back explain civil forfeiture more of the Institute for Justice your group made this video about it so.
If police arrest you prosecutors must prove your guilty.
Before they can put you in jail.
But -- police suspect your car was involved in a crime they can take it so it.
And in most places pocket the proceeds to pad their budgets with civil forfeiture your property is guilty until -- -- -- innocent to get it back.
And because most state and federal laws allow police and prosecutors to -- proceeds to have a big incentive to pursue profits not just how big.
In 1986 the Justice Department's forfeiture funds took in 94 million dollars.
Now it has more than a billion citizens are seeing cash cars and other property taken away for the flimsy -- -- reasons.
Carrying too much cash.
Police can accuse you -- selling drugs are laundering money and season.
And -- just because you have a lot of cash in the car they can take your car.
Yet and to -- they can take the car and the cash and accuse you of either being a drug dealer or laundering money.
Even if there's no drugs in the car they have no other reason to suspect you of wrongdoing and then the -- how much cash -- it could be what the police officers considers to be -- an usually large amount of cash which could be as small as 900 dollars 12100 dollars 2000 dollars.
And then the burden shifts to the property owner in taxes to try to get their property back.
Also into hiring a lawyer to defend -- Part of what got too much more than twelve undergo absolutely so most people just give up and because it's a civil proceeding the government can win by default and that's with the way many of these cases -- you have one client whose truck was lost because he loaned it to somebody else who drove -- That's right end in this happens all the time where people were holding innocent of wrongdoing can still face the loss of their property.
Also in Texas police and prosecutors keep.
Of the proceeds from forfeiture giving them the very direct.
The very perverse incentive to go out and try to take as much property as possible.
In one state.
Chief of police -- Margarito maker for his office with.
With the funds.
The California isn't great on this either.
It's not great but it is better than Texas in California police and prosecutors only keep 65%.
Giving them still certainly.
A bad in perverse incentive but not as -- at least in California the burden is on the government to try to prove.
But you did something wrong unlike in Texas where the burden is on the property -- and the institute says the best states for protecting property main North Dakota Vermont.
Let's move on eminent domain and other property issue Texas passed after -- all.
-- this woman's house Texas pass the constitutional amendment saying you can't do that Texas should be good.
That's right Texas does have much veteran and a domain -- than the originally did the legislature passed some our laws after the week -- -- will but they made a bunch of exemptions in the law including an exemption for the Cowboys Stadium word that.
Government there took over hundred pieces of property to build the the monolith to -- to the Dallas Cowboys ironically enough now California.
Is better about eminent domain not because of their laws but because California is broke and one of the things that the state did in order to try to improve their finances is too old polish.
Redevelopment agencies throughout the state.
And those were the main abusers of eminent domain so this is an instance where the fiscal crisis in California has actually led to something that better protect property.
-- Licensing -- this is what it takes to start a business in Texas -- importers have to get a license at Texas is one of five states.
That require shampoo workers to be licensed they have to spend over a hundred dollars a year on a license you have to past two exams something that you and I and probably most the audience here successfully did.
This morning you have to pass exams in Texas -- -- become a license should of course that's ridiculous and and there's no justification for it.
To -- sports you have to be a licensed teacher.
Texas one of the few states that require that is well you have to go to college for four years in worded it in order to coach.
Are any sport in in Texas Texas takes Texans take their sports very seriously this is just a barrier to entry into illegitimate occupation.
Commercial fishermen have to pay almost 5000 dollars in fees.
But bad -- Texas is California in licensing -- works California is worse California has very draconian occupational licensing laws.
But Texas is seventeenth in the nation.
In their -- some occupational licensing laws are certainly better than California but there's a lot of room for improvement in Texas when it comes to license.
Thank you Scott collectively as if on some things where California -- us okay and coming -- One more thing we should be very grateful to California.
Thank you California.
America needs you.
We need you the way we needed this Soviet Union.
As a model of failure to warn us what happens if we listen to those who say government does it better.
The USSR died about forty years ago.
Many -- you forgot it's works you young people may not even -- That's -- I'm grateful that we have not just California but Illinois and Connecticut to remind us of what power -- politicians do.
Okay that's not fair American states are murderous dictatorship.
And another difference if you live in a big government state.
You can move vote with your feet.
I grew up -- don't.
Was -- my state except in the winter.
But gradually it's politicians gave away its future.
They increased pay and pensions to government workers to the point that -- Illinois won't have money for much of anything else.
I moved to New York City which is no political paradise either but what -- I do this is -- for the big TV news jobs were and still -- And at least New York's promises to unions may not bankrupt us too soon.
And I can move again.
I'd still be stuck with federal law but it's an advantage to live in a country that has fifty states each can be a laboratory of democracy.
One gets it right I can move there.
A group called the free state project invites you to moved to New Hampshire to help create liberty in our lifetime.
It's too early to see how that -- works out.
I'm glad -- we have state so I don't have to leave my country to escape its worst loss in Europe I would.
French actor Gerard Depardieu who just moved to Belgium to escape France's proposed 75%.
Tax on rich -- Years ago -- high taxes in Britain drove David Molina moved to Switzerland and Rod Stewart to Los Angeles.
White -- in California.
I wonder if he's now gonna move back.
All he cats in 2010 he moved his family back to and the -- doesn't claim taxes with the reason.
Americans -- wanna escape high taxes can -- one of these states Alaska Florida New Hampshire Nevada South Dakota.
Tennessee Texas Washington and Wyoming.
All have no state income tax -- surprise those states create more jobs.
No surprise actually without an income tax they were forced to limit the growth of their government sold they did.
Every state -- school social service programs prisons.
Those states find a way to fund those for let's.
Then they reap benefits.
Last decade those nine states gained population from other states they increase jobs by four point 9%.
Jobs in the rest of the states declined by two point 6%.
Competition between neighboring states also -- state politicians from indulging in all their wins.
New Hampshire is lack of an income taxes camp for months politicians from going completely crazy.
The existence of Arizona and Nevada a nearby deter California's legislators from going crazy.
Well actually and they still go crazy despite so many people moving from California to Nevada and -- -- But it's good -- we have places like Texas smaller government there means growth.
And a gradual increase in prosperity.
While California shrinks.
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