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And the woman who essentially -- FaceBook Cheryl samba she says as women become more successful critics become more negative about them.
They are seeing women as -- as aggressive.
She also says that as women continue to climb the ladder and they have major disadvantage against men an extra job quote here's what -- -- Women still have two jobs in the most developed countries around the world men -- -- She is of course referring to raising a family.
Let's bring in Sabrina Schaeffer executive director from independent women's forum okay.
All you generally in sympathy with Sheryl Sandburg to us under invest saying them look it's tough being a woman hard to get up and talk with criticized when we arrived.
And it's hard to climb the ladder you in sympathy.
Well I yeah I appreciate her directness of -- -- -- you know the last few years she's offered a lot of advice so working women on how to better themselves how to get a leg up in business.
I'm Caesar famously talked about when -- need to take you -- -- that people don't leave the workplace too early learned to negotiate.
I'm and I think her -- recent comments when she said we have to be realistic about women and and what they balance.
I'm was bear conversation to have any agreement -- -- -- while I.
I agree with you I think it is a fat statement all reality.
Not now I'm coming of this when big fight about this and our editorial meeting this morning but I I saw -- I think women.
Gonna catch -- -- saying yes I think women -- better can give us the young babies.
And that is a second job on top of that Korea and that is a disadvantage.
But my judgment was the women -- better can't give us I mean they're more naturally inclined to do that unless so wrong for saying that it.
Laura and I think it -- a disadvantage look I'm not working mom but I also have three young children.
And I want to be with those -- I I'm upset when I have a really long day that keeps me away from them.
I'm I don't think that we should be seen as a bad thing necessarily acting too often we do we say either you're working woman -- sort of resents having a family or you have a family -- your.
Completely -- interested in learning or doing something outside of the home.
I'm I think we need to realize that today women don't see you gotta think dichotomy think you can have it all -- it's challenging it's tricky it causes some headaches sometimes but.
The reality is we have a lot of choices and opportunities -- -- went on the.
On the other hand I think ms.
Sandberg suggested that we -- right back in the 1950s.
You can't say that now can now meet you that's that's ridiculous cancer that.
No absolutely not and in fact you know look you're talking about -- higher rate before this.
-- we see lots of big companies and small companies.
Employing women who are who are pregnant who are about -- -- families of the independent women -- just hired someone who is five months pregnant.
I am there -- the reality is that women are extremely important part of the workforce they are outpacing men educationally am professionally.
And businesses understand that both men and women don't want the kind of flexibility that allow them.
Do I have a I have I have some balance in their life between home and work.
Would you say that the independent women's forum.
Regards the Republicans.
As a threat to women moving -- the hierarchy.
A threat to women moving up the hierarchy what you stand.
We we -- -- Democrats I'm not because we're partisan organization that because they usually endorse workplace regulations that actually make.
-- -- more costly to hire women a -- -- don't give me examples.
-- things like -- Lily Ledbetter fair pay act and the paycheck fairness -- -- the expansion at the family Medical Leave Act or mandating paid maternity leave.
I'm in the reality is that they mentioned women are extremely important part of the work force businesses want to accommodate women.
I'm and we need to stop thinking at the workplace as discriminatory and when you pass this kind of -- near regulatory legislation.
It actually makes it more costly for businesses employ women becomes much more risky the threat of lawsuits and uncertainty.
I'm is overwhelming for businesses and I'll just -- then instead.
That is fascinating and that that was that was very he's very interest and I've been signed up for a long long time.
They say we're helping you in fact that poaching you -- -- -- -- -- flexibility -- Sabrina you can come back on this program any sunlight vacation yeah they expect a -- appreciate -- I think.
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