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First guest tonight disagree about the proposed assault weapons ban one side -- we must reduce the firepower.
Available to those who would killed suburban -- when we can the other claim that just -- -- claiming the Justice Department.
-- already analyze the ninety -- for assault weapons ban and concluded.
It did nothing to reduce crime or the number of shootings joining us is Erich Pratt director communications Gun Owners of America.
And Richard -- -- president of the citizens crime commission in New York former president of the Brady campaign.
Thank you both for being here and Richard let me begin with you are you hopeful that feinstein's legislation we'll actually be them.
The template for what.
What the democratic our party will achieve.
Well her bill as part of what the Democratic Party hopes to achieve more -- with the president hopes to achieve.
Gun control has always been a tough fight I help lead this fight in 94.
When we passed -- solemn -- the first time people told it was impossible.
We would never get it done and sure enough we did get it done.
Unfortunately had a ten year sunset so the bill lapsed when congress put these comes back on the street so yes I do think is a good -- -- still get through.
Along with a bill on background checks and a bill on mental health issues.
-- let me ask here it is is that your judgment that this bill is going to be pretty much of the year.
The direction we're headed.
-- do you think that this is going to be a part of the push I think it's they've got a long road to -- And I think we need to remember that it's not gonna do any thing.
Really to take.
These types of firearms out of determined -- -- Connecticut had a very strict.
And yet -- -- stole it well first of all killed his mother and then stole the firearms no law.
Is gonna prevent bad guys from doing that in and really.
This is hard for gun owners to take from Dianne Feinstein since she actually had a concealed carry permit.
Several -- several years ago.
-- -- We're we're gonna play a -- research reports that I.
And I wanna apologize I on January of course your father's name about.
Richard your response -- -- is just sort of the -- as the fact that when -- went into place the reality is there is something we could do to stop -- from having gotten those weapons.
Which would be to require gun owners keep their guns locked up unless they're an actual possession them which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and most reasonable gun owners do that.
We a ten year experience with the assault weapon ban we saw effectiveness during the ten years.
The ban was lifted and we saw the seizure of -- -- up and start to go up and the seizure.
I magazine started -- police department all of the country were reporting that.
So we have the opportunity to reduce the firepower as your intro said and I think it's very important we do that.
However -- -- what rich.
What Richard is not telling us and I'm sure he knows were actually safer today.
Now that the gun -- sunset in 2004 you look at the FBI statistics the murder rate has plummeted it's gone through the floor so were actually safer today with these firearms be illegal.
-- size that just reaches ridiculous proportions in all due respect.
You cannot look at this -- physics that assault weapons look -- in the assault weapons I've driven down crime.
These are not a whole lot of that's what he -- -- he is asserting that Cynthia solemn ban was lifted we are safer.
We are double murderer -- as we are safer America because police the murder rate has plummeted what are you gonna say about the average Erica I know and LA it's simply not correct the murder rates -- -- I probably have you Richard anybody can Google that FBI statistics and look for themselves 2004 to 2011.
I invite them to do that.
Well let me -- this beauty.
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