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Should We Arm America’s Teachers?

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    California State Senator Leland Yee and author Suzanna Hupp debate the state’s gun laws.

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Got in Texas it's easy no Texas restrictions just a federal background check in three -- aging getting gone.

California has lots of restrictions like waiting periods and assault weapons ban.

After the recent school shooting in Connecticut California politicians propose more rules.

They want to make hundreds of thousands of previously legal guns illegal on their owners would have to give them to the government.

By contrast in Texas some politicians want to make it easier for teachers to carry guns in the school.

What a terrible -- -- California State senator Leland.

Also are hurting me -- thank you from Texas Susanna hop who likes the idea of teachers packing heat -- and I watch.

I guess you could probably say because of my background I know what it's like to be in -- defense both situation with a crazed shooter that the just there to -- keep people look.

Lawyers can protect themselves on the job teachers are are -- -- tractors can protect them from pat themselves on the job so why can't our teachers protect themselves on the job.

-- treated like second class citizens.

And and let's review your background about this years ago.

You were in a Luby's restaurant when -- gunman came in and killed your mom and dad and that made you -- until 23 people.

That was the first real mass shooting in this country back in 1991 that would -- we make a lot of people say I want tougher gun laws but you say the opposite.

And you've written the book -- from -- to the legislature.

One woman's fight against gun control.

-- explain your reason.

At that time in the state of Texas he couldn't get a concealed carry permit.

They didn't exist so -- began leaving my gun in my car very dutifully and my parents and I were having.

Launched.

A mad man -- destructive the -- -- and began executing people.

And I -- tea I I can't begin to tell you what it's like to be like a -- -- a barrel waiting for it to be your turn.

The only thing that the gun laws did was prevent me and some others and that restaurant from being -- to protect ourselves.

And our family.

So mr.

year I assume you move strongly disagree with this.

Make your right -- to work.

I don't know of any teacher or administrator that once to carry a gun.

Into a classroom into a school.

-- -- start doing.

That would schools and why not look at supermarkets why don't.

We look at hospitals where there's my some gunplay is there finally -- them -- have -- -- not the way.

That's not the way in which we want to operate in our society here in California you know we -- were about educating kids.

We're not -- telling kids to go and -- guns and shoot them out if someone comes.

Into your schools.

-- Who are not talking about the children being able to carry weapons.

We're talking about the people that can already carry weapons in the supermarket says he says all we're talking about doing what's necessary -- in the.

We adults are saying to kids that when you are a child -- you grow up to solve your problem Terry had gotten.

And that is not the life lesson ought to be teaching children -- what this special finally settle the -- -- -- ready.

The police carry guns on -- guarantee.

And and that's -- police ought to Kerry got and they are there to protect the people of California California has all these gun restrictions.

But there are more murders in California per capita than Texas -- the gun laws don't work.

Not know that's actually not true you know studies upon studies have demonstrated.

That the states that have jurisdictions that have.

The toughest gun laws.

Are the ones that are the safest per capita that's an asset -- to have -- They're not saying that it's absolutely wrong Chicago Washington DC look at look at today California's cities like all all -- think -- per capita when when you look at the per capita data.

That it is absolutely true that jurisdictions -- toughest gun control.

Are in fact the safest and and the reality of Alcoa has -- -- have literally and they are checked for Stockton the eleven.

Highest murder rate hang on Suzanne I just want -- Contradict what.

Seems to be good -- against the fact that how do you explain Stockton per capita and Oakland the highest murderer among the highest murder rates in the nation.

-- what what -- what I'm saying is that if you look at the entire state.

If you look at the entire jurisdiction.

That's what we're talking about you can't look at you know specific you know individuals cities in -- Because that of course is and that it is well I think this -- the data on the whole thing they look at Susanna.

I'd like to -- -- -- a question -- he can you name one single place in the United States were one of these mass shootings has occurred.

Where guns were allowed.

Because of gun -- -- problem why are we seeing these mass shootings at the dreaded gun show that you all are trying to make illegal.

Or NRA can download this -- even got a -- -- you know on the -- You talk about in this -- where there -- thousands of guns in the hands of of law abiding citizens.

Yet we always in the in the past -- violations when guns are -- why our placard there.

And that does not stop.

Those young individuals from coming in the column by.

And shooting and slaughtering individual what what that is all I'm not saying that that he was having not gotten.

Is not gonna stop all of these other individuals.

Coming into a school coming into -- playground and -- -- -- children.

We've got a -- other real ways of dealing with this but the.

Or Texas.

And Texas we already have several schools where the administrators he mentioned earlier that no teachers and no administrators would -- -- carry.

On the contrary we have several teachers and administrators -- already deep Kerry in some well.

-- you know I think I don't know attacks -- are already Jamaican dollars and if you're always gonna -- wondered to administrators here and there.

But overall when it asked the question teachers do you wanna -- guns going into your classroom.

The answered resoundingly is no no children you know the politicians don't how would involve all -- accurate to say I'm gonna be carrying a gun.

If the teacher -- -- alliance.

Forcing teachers to carry a gun what you politicians have to get involved -- say the teacher who wants to fix it makes her safer.

She may not.

-- if you happen to be a teacher.

And you go and purchase of -- and you wanna go through the background checks and so on ultimately you're gonna have a -- You could have a school in California it's okay with you.

No no absolutely not yet -- carrying guns in -- school went all out should students to carry guns why we get a -- teachers.

Terry and executing our killing zone guns CEO is making a -- ruling -- schools are a gun free zone.

What what we're not yeah and that's exactly how does I don't know where they want to rat we're learning what I have to can count is the gun free zone.

That's where they racked up big body -- counts that's where they look well in look into what we're not gonna solve this where's that -- done this show on thank you both.