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My next guest says the fact that President Obama is seeking an ambitious over all of the immigration system is a good step.
But reform must focus on first securing our borders joining us is Albert park arguments junior -- prevention and Elkins prominent.
Attorney and it is great to see you -- for -- walk from back of the broadcast.
Gala evening and thanks for having back well let's start with this that this massive bill that -- -- at least it's being described as such.
That would provide a pathway to citizenship.
For illegal immigrants -- First -- -- concept do you think that is the appropriate way to proceed given the the failures and the frustration of the past six years -- on the part of those who tried their.
To avoid incremental ism and in seek a whole loaf rather than some portion thereof.
I think the portions need to be there and they can be there incrementally but the end goal is to make certain that the immigration system works.
For America first.
And really for the system that we need in our economy so that we have visas for individuals who want to come and work legally.
That we have the most secure borders that's actually the first step we need to have the most secure borders we can't have live.
And nobody should really be against that.
Once we get those steps achieved then we should look at how we fix the problems that we do you have so that we don't end up in this mess again.
And genetics and I think we have -- -- the Government Accountability Office its most recent report.
Showing that they believe that -- under counting the number of people entering this country illegally that is -- being.
Homeland Security by almost 40% 38%.
That's extraordinary they also -- in the same time to say.
That they really think -- great problems with the estimates.
On the part of nearly all of the agencies because they don't think they're very close to reality.
Right if we ended up having a decent system that worked for those that want to work legally in this country we could focus our efforts.
On those that want to do damage to the country which is really where Department of Homeland Security should focus on what we also -- that GAO study was really.
And incomplete version it's in only focuses on the southwest border -- have problems with that I think needs to be comprehensive that word that we got a comprehensive study of our coastlines -- northern border ports of entry.
And really those that overstayed their visas not should also be a focus and and illegal immigrants an estimated 40%.
Our in this country illegally as a result of injuring through our our ports and our airports -- our airports.
Are overstating their bases.
Correct -- going to -- to the idea that we're going to see this battle.
I just gone through the list with a gal talking about the problems that face the nation.
This president -- shows one of them chosen one of the lowest priorities for the American people that is gun control to put his greatest efforts -- -- he is now talking about.
Immigration reform again.
He is talking about gun control.
He's taking on the issues that frankly are not.
Not at the top of the list for most Americans how do you rationalize that I think we all agree we need to resolve the issue the how.
How do we explain its -- -- a priority.
Well I don't think he should -- for the Second Amendment let me put that out there but I also feel that immigration reform.
Can be done in a way that achieves an American purpose and that enhances our economic growth and vitality.
I feel and I think that American people feel that this is a problem that has persisted.
For many many years actually decades quite frankly and it needs to be addressed in a rational humane pragmatic approach.
I think the president actually is doing a good step in talking to leaders from both parties.
I look forward to his State of the Union Address to see what he outlines and I really look forward to seeing legislation.
Introduced and it needs to be done in a bipartisan fashion when they -- republic this isn't gonna remember another one party can't take all the responsibility and one party can't take all the blame.
Are the Republicans you believe ready to -- too important to press ahead and acquiesced to the idea pathway to citizenship or will it be a quote and quote pathway to legal steps.
I think it should be a pathway to legal status.
I'm not objecting to the provisions that are -- in place for individuals who want to apply.
Jury it with the laws that we currently have but let's also be frank Republicans are the ones that have led on this issue through the decades.
The last time comprehensive immigration reform passed the United States senate.
It was during Republican leadership and that a majority leader Bill Frist it was bipartisan it was something that they get obviously more democratic votes that it failed.
During the leadership of the Democrats in 2007.
I believe that you know you you can't blame one side or the other you actually have to come together and that's -- the American people want to see and I hope that's where the president has had.
I don't always good to talk review thanks for being here you got it thanks live.
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