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    The Hill Columnist Cheri Jacobus, FNC legal analyst Lis Wiehl and Democratic Strategist Hank Sheinkopf on growing calls for increased gun control.

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It's an owners joining us now Fox News legal analysts -- real Republican strategist columnist for the hill -- probe us.

Democratic strategist -- -- thank you all for being here.

Comprehensive means all the guns is that your interpretation of what this administration -- planning to do.

I think that for political purposes they want people to think that they can and will do -- I think it's wrong it's not realistic.

I particularly had a problem with this sort of thing happening on the heels of of the shootings in Newtown and and if -- and I may.

When the people who I think came up with when the brave and best ideas and now she's sort of disappeared.

I was senator Barbara Boxer and I don't agree with turn on any the National Guard about the National Guard at least acknowledgement of having.

Some sort of aren't professionals securing our schools I -- about this in the -- -- of the NRA saying that kind of agree with that only and that's probably why she's backed up at that really addresses the problem -- -- everything else is just politics and it turned my stomach.

Please your view on this because it's clear this administration.

We just received word the government -- -- New York.

What do you think north comprehensive.

Topless control laws in the country now that I'm wondering -- -- -- what does that medium and how the New York -- new happens there are very tough gun control -- top or the toughest.

I you know I don't think it's the toughest Connecticut actually said that there one of the toughest and yet they're not of course because the shooter the killer's mother have those gone and they weren't legal Don there.

Was was lawfully.

That write a letter -- this also read lawfully purchased were absolutely -- Corsica into the wrong hands but -- I I agree with you in the sense we cannot be going you know.

Absolutely dessert on the heels of something as horrendous as this we then why our political why oh why -- municipal as a political tool on the other hand.

I would tell you I -- I'm a lawyer -- both at the time now.

My daughter was in quality schools it was in lockdown last week.

-- that's a very very frightening thing for any parent to think you know there was a man what was she told the do.

She was well they weren't told anything they were just told the school is a -- -- they -- not given any information.

Then she told me -- later what the plant with the with the great plan for the school if this were to happen again.

Lock the door and all huddle in a quarter.

Something -- which apparently is what happened with one classrooms and town.

Which was to put these kids well Johanna that he would have been -- his -- ran towards again and that's not going to change and that's why -- to secure the schools some of those teachers use their own bodies some of the bullets at the kids wouldn't get hit -- Any teachers going to do -- that's reality that we have to now it.

The most important element of this and our discussions on in this raised and on the -- of the segment.

National.

-- or mentally -- -- -- and that no more than anything else will begin to to deal -- this problem and an entire professional associations the psychologists in the psychiatrists and mental health care providers are gonna fight you all the way they have to this point.

Is a matter of fact I've sat here and talked with a number of psychologists and psychiatrists.

And to a person they acknowledged.

At least part.

That they are responsible for some of the impediments to full checks the access to that information.

This is a country that is dealing with in the instance of Newtown.

-- horribly.

Horribly.

Deranged young man I it is the same -- is as former congresswoman Giffords is now working with her husband are on an anti gun crusade.

You know she was the victim of -- obviously mental ill person.

And the first answer I heard from one psychiatrists or you can't -- a mentally ill because of had cast a Pall that's a stigma there's this is 2012 there is no stick -- We're seeing off any line -- -- Senator Obama has been hospitalized for mental illness.

And poor's a felon with a combination that you can't have why should they have access to weapons -- -- could agree with an -- category let -- thank.

Should you I'm good education but it's really arguing about that that's that's a lot right now but.

How little trust in this in this government.

That if you give them one ounce you know they're going to take the full pound and and a measure beyond of this is a game that's being played and administered this we're watching reconstituted.

This lost two to just absolutely destroy.

The significance of the meeting in the protection of the sector and and this administration has been -- I'm originally I think -- using a tragedy but it today that as well.

You disagree apologists I think that you're right.

I think that there is a good point that's what democracy is about not being extreme.

I think that not having an ATF director for a lot of years not empowering the government to do what it ought to do which is -- -- traffic across state lines.

-- -- -- -- straw buyers and I don't nevertheless this administration.

-- cuts across an international border with -- jurors that still it has not come pouring in on and which they're.

The congressman and state seems parlors to move we're talking about mental health issues were talking about so many broad and deep concerns including.

Do.

The commerce in violence whether it's video games or its movies -- and that is -- to -- because it's inconvenient to the narrative.

And that's a -- And it should not be tolerant we haven't had this kind of national dialogue and valuation before -- close with since -- assassinations of the sixties.

We haven't talked about what really what the causes of violence are we're not prepared do -- -- Easy way to do -- Lewis to get legislation that they're not working for mental health issue though too because people think that he can't ever appears the patient -- -- -- would you can.

If it if a counselor knows or has a good.

Idea that's another person's going to become violent.

-- the if it into practice that there's so much propaganda.

And all of this from both sides.

That we have to cut through it and talk honestly here.

The reality is that rifles as organ tragic and it is these killings have been.

The rifle is not the issue.

The assault weapon makes its.

You know something it is frankly not to semi automatic weapon.

It and in the idea.

The people in this is being propagated -- now the fact is more people are killed.

With with clubs for crying out loud.

Then with rifle.

Well that's my and I think my -- and we look at a -- the the real issue now people can take care now discuss now as being pushed aside something they can -- -- protecting kids in schools.

And possibly other public places.

And what's under reported as we do have somebody who is legally I was unable to stop some of these these murders in mass murders in areas where -- people are gathered.

That's -- -- recorded in the mainstream media if you responsible trained adults who are -- in places like schools.

We went on and even the mad men aren't going to be re alignment there acted to to do their budget avatar.

The superintendents of such schools -- have had no.

Problem whatsoever to resolve their children are protected their students protective of the attorney general state of Arizona -- -- Talk about what they can do there.

Being proactive -- forward and then to here's some others.

And the others are concerned about the budget is reason not to protect our people up.

My god we've got a lot to talk that's why at least -- churches are -- trying -- will be with this later in this hour.