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Rep. Paul Gosar, (R-Ariz.), on the debt ceiling debate and the need to rein in government spending.
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President Obama is demand that debt not be used -- bargaining is utterly hypocritical saying the debt limit as a reminder our nation's spending is.
Out of control and that the house.
Has the leverage of controlling the nation's first street is joining us congressman Paul -- Congressman good to have you with us -- let's start with.
Already we're hearing discussions.
In this cases initiated by senator -- Of that -- -- a shutdown of the federal government may be already in prospect.
I think that's he said it perfectly -- in in a partial -- shut down.
Is that we've got an administration that is addicted to spending.
And when you have an addiction you do it incrementally and I think what we also have to do is teach the American people that we have a president who was misinformed and lied to them about.
The protocol in the financial straits that this country finds itself -- Congress abductors to be very careful there because I am is fiscally conservative as anyone in this country.
About I'm also keenly aware that this president just kicked your tails in the Republican Party -- Capitol Hill.
And also won an election -- what point.
Deal all say you know we're going to have to wait till the next round of elections.
Because the way to really if you will salvation does not lie was shutting down the federal government it's been demonstrated time and time again.
-- you know the president didn't minimize it in my district in fact I won overwhelmingly in fact I think what the American public voted for was a stalemate because.
I'm they wanna have some accountability they want some transparency Lou are gonna -- war without I just -- target on on the central issue of the hour of the House of Representatives itself.
We are well and I think.
-- -- -- -- I think that's why we lost this last ones because we had back -- deals we weren't progressive we weren't you getting in front of the issues and we didn't have an open discussion with the American people.
I think we do our best work is when we of the house open that up to all the great ideas on the floor and regular order.
And put it out there to the American people because they're they want to 7% -- people want spending cuts.
-- straightforwardly your leadership.
Chose to go one on one with this president and speaker Boehner -- says he's like how to do -- again.
As you say he's going he's moved to regular order.
ID -- on the the right in the House of Representatives Republicans were insisting on that all law.
You've got canceled -- ratified that he's changed his position but the American people of got to be just slightly per plaques.
That now they only way to make to move forward in the estimation of the Republican caucuses to shut down the government.
BellSouth the Republicans did it's it's the whole aspect of this federal government it's -- steamroller that's out of control and you've got to do this.
American understands that when you have a drug addict and alcoholic expander particularly to put them on an incremental plan and you hold them accountable you don't reward bad.
Behavior -- you reward good behavior and you make sure that you teach people where this money's going.
I am absolutely.
In absolute agreement with what you're saying about the fact the government is out of control.
It is being led by an imperious president.
Who has not -- if it's not at a budget since 2009.
Who is now it will be responsible with the additional four trillion dollars as a result of the fiscal port which by the way you.
Many of your members approve.
This is a this is a government certainly how to control an administration that -- -- leaving a devastating wake of debt.
And deficits.
But the reality is you in the house.
I I have to save maybe you can in instruct us here tonight.
I can't find where you've got the power to be a very big they successfully resisted force against.
-- a spendthrift in the White House.
-- -- do -- and I think that we have to be incredibly and I have some ingenuity outside the box here we need to teach America that will pay our debts.
For social security and Medicare in the military congress on the same time he views that expression I'm Hamas and -- -- I had to say to you -- I don't believe that the idea that you heard it wanted to congress is going to be teaching the American people was appropriate -- take.
I believe the American people a little tired frankly of our political class -- -- -- bunch of idiots are gonna be taught.
Are you all.
All night you know the one thing though I have to stop you there and that is is that in what we found is is that we were in educating the American public because I think 71% of all voters said don't touch my social security and Medicare.
Both we don't do that.
We're gonna lose it I mean when you look at they -- Medicare.
Are they so security disability trust fund has got less than two years and -- all the stuff starts coming to ahead.
So when you don't teach and you don't show people by the deceit that this president has done by scaring the American public over the last four years.
Let's go back to what he said before when he ran in 2008 -- talks looks a lot more like the talk that has to come about here that's real and genuine.
Not what we've done over the last four years.
But to actually take these numbers and show people why social security and Medicare are running on a pathway to destruction to save them we're here to save them not to destroy them.
But also make sure that -- That family budgets like they do every month are done the same way here in in Washington DC -- a simple person I think America's very simple.
And we should be able to put this -- budget.
But this budget in this administration and the senate back on track.
Through the power of the -- month by month quarter by quarter good behavior not bad behavior.
-- It's going to be uninteresting it's going to be an interest -- year without any question.
And -- if you stop me I would just like -- against say.
I believe that the idea that there is.
Some room to -- set aside the fact that the congress and the senate have a 10% approval rating on the part of the American people.
It's going to be dog gone difficulty all the take on the position.
Of either -- -- instructor when what we metres and people.
As regular citizens talking is very -- incidents -- commend you for saying that your a simple follow.
Because.
What we need is straightforward -- simplicity.
On the part of our elected representatives and our -- you represent that congressman.
It's always -- I'm glad.
And -- and I'm glad I'm from the house because we've had numerous solutions put on the table.
And to see the disrespect from the senate particularly Harry Reid to table these issues instead of bringing him in front of the American people to discuss them.
It's just outrageous and that's part of the thing is I think I think the house had have a very -- approval rating in the senate should be obsolete below below zero.
-- comedy RM after the make your choice but the fact is federal just remind you.
-- harbor -- -- he may be the senate majority leader was elected by his state.
And he stands are presenting them as well so we've got these dynamics -- work -- Congressman it's always good to talk really -- come -- -- you and I hope that we can talk about some significant progress on.
Bring this government.
-- -- fiscal responsibility.
To the forefront thanks so much.
Thanks so much -- much.
