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Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Norquist on reducing government spending and fighting the debt ceiling.
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Today and that story kind of speaks if we -- -- a little bit to -- the bigger problem in Washington.
Capitol Hill and what that would bring Grover Norquist and today president.
Of Americans for Tax Reform before we talk about all that figured -- having you on Grover would be saying.
Boy -- -- -- terrible week for you yet a huge loss Republicans finally raise taxes but you don't see it that way at all.
That no actually what happened was we just got 85%.
Of the bush tax cuts and made permanent.
For the last twelve years we've lived with a sort of damocles over our had that at any moment.
We could have ended and last.
This weekend now Monday there was a 500 billion dollar tax increase it took -- factors.
Per day or -- credit of 500 billion dollar tax increase hit.
Because content without congress doing I -- -- what happened was congress acted.
We got 85% of that tax cuts -- for 99% of Americans as -- everything we wanted to know we want.
All of it made permanent.
But we had none of that permanent for the last twelve years show.
We know.
Know what the tax code looks like.
-- we move forward to fight well that's what I want to reduce spending yeah that's what I wanna talk about on a couple of different fronts is this the next battle whether it's the debt ceiling battle has sequester battle or.
Or whatever it technically will be the White House is gonna want more revenue and and -- got 600 billion dollars and in taxes out of this you're shaking your head already but don't if they have that they'll be at least some revenue in this next deal how do Republicans avoid that.
All the very easily first of all the old argument from the Democrats -- what will raise taxes and cut spending.
Well an 82 they promised that they raise taxes and didn't cut spending and nine.
They -- President Bush raise taxes didn't cut spending and this last.
Couple of months they were pretending that they were for this grand bargain there -- gonna.
Cut spending and raise taxes what the end of the -- they the president got his pound of flash and not.
It in continue all the bush tax cuts.
And what are they give they spent more money not last so I don't think you ever for that you know Lucy and the football.
Only work so often people read the comic strip we're not gonna get fooled by Obama or new -- or Nancy hello Stacey and I think at the White House is they said -- work.
Where are pretty good role here and the Republicans and I I would assume is their -- that Republicans are a mess especially now I think you know and if there's something to that in terms of the house leadership are now what -- -- They got backwards because the reason they're able to get the pound -- -- this last week was automatically -- one up but nothing happened.
So they didn't get a single Republican to vote to raise taxes they just said we're not gonna.
A lot allow things to happen and keep moving for the next three fights.
Work just the opposite way -- two months from now the sequester.
A one point two trillion dollar reduction and spending over the next decade.
Takes a fact.
Automatically.
Now if we all shouldn't put all our -- spending gets cut the president have to defend his spending.
Then we move to the debt ceiling if he doesn't get a debt ceiling -- increase I know they're doing this platinum nonsense.
But that doesn't -- the president gave up two and a half dollars I don't know what we have a track record you've outlined it.
Tell me your prediction are you confident today to say.
That the 600 billion as yet there will be no war.
Tax increases and even if you don't -- that we count that but it you know what I'm saying there will be no more yeah tax increases rest this year these two facts -- -- You cannot raise taxes now that we've gone past that stupid.
Fiscal -- you cannot raise taxes on the American people with out the Republican House -- representatives voting yes.
Without the Democrats' Senate voting yes they're twenty Democrats up for election 2014.
None of them want their fingerprints on Obama's tax increases.
They're going to be and in the witness protection program whenever it comes to any discussion of revenue.
The Republican vote cheerfully vote now you're -- 157.
Republicans voting.
I don't even wanna be in the room while you allow a tax increase to happen that they weren't couldn't get the tax agreement.
There are voting get more associated.
With taxes drift it -- drifting upwards.
Felt you have a very very angry Republican Party in the house that is not going to raise taxes as gonna fight like cats for spending restraint.
And it's about time and you'll be -- -- -- -- we'll talk more with Grover Norquist and thanks for today thanks for coming on.
And -- at a DC Grover Norquist terrible story that's been buried under the.
