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-- tax watch -- name of Grover Norquist sounding off on the fiscal cliff do you he is what he tweeted last night to direct quote.
The bush tax cuts lapsed at midnight last night.
Every Republican voting for the senate bill is cutting taxes and keeping.
His law -- Joining us now is wanna grove and all qwest's top lieutenants there is a matter of -- with Americans for Tax Reform.
-- That statement sounded familiar like real big back -- Sorry but that's what it sounds like him you know clearly -- go.
Yeah good morning to you excuse me -- dialect.
Yeah well we have we have a fiscal -- that we have been talking about for months if not years we now at December 31 at midnight.
All the bush tax relief expires so what happens at midnight we don't have a deal in place.
It takes years and -- now wants to act like it never even happened you know.
It's an interesting position -- more Republicans Indian to say.
That this biz tax hike that we've been talking about Bullard -- in history is coming and it ignore that happened in try not to do anything about it what.
And it drove -- -- we go off the cliff.
So everybody's taxes go up but in comes the senate bill and cuts taxes on 98% of people that for its okay.
To break the large damage that there that's -- tech.
This isn't -- -- you know -- I just.
This is no -- implications whatsoever current law was always that this gigantic tax hikes.
What's going to happen it was on Republicans.
To stop this tax hike and what we got from decided and while we got Republicans on the -- what about they -- do from the negotiating position they were and remember a.
Mandate are you sure that he's not being beaten up.
Grover Norquist beaten up so bad that he's retreated into -- technical grounds.
Really -- it yeah.
I'd love idea that we're tough coverage here and we're willing to take some of the colony in the Pratt and -- in the laughed because -- now that Republicans aren't getting serious.
About a trying to cut government but how can you get there without the tax issue off the table 12 and it quickly quickly does this mean is it just -- -- rover is this a new.
Reality for you guys that Americans for tax -- This all about the position that current lot baseline is something we need to be concerned about because tax law does not -- Robert just.
You know in current no way currently is we need to look at the wait a lot actually -- -- got that all the tax relief.
That was in place by 0103 was going to expire Republicans need to do something defects that and that required actually legislating not to allowing present -- to its alright Charles -- -- -- he's itching to go at it go.
I you know -- have to plan B -- Bennett took a serious shot directly at Grover -- where does -- next move it to the debt ceiling weren't God's gonna make this -- I thought this word you made the stand.
And if you loss and loss of -- to Waterloo that's okay to say that.
But you know are you gotta make this they have to worry or is doubt you even at Grover Norquist pledge.
About moving -- Holes.
That need to explain to me how we essentially watch as I mentioned before we have a massive tax hike that happened at midnight on a good.
-- -- that -- what about the debt ceiling is that we're gonna make a serious man.
Oh absolutely I think this is that Barry get possession that Republicans are in now they're trying cut the size of government you know we get that -- -- -- was passed.
-- watch for years and years -- one speaker Boehner came into power this -- the first time we actually use the debt ceiling to trying cut the size of government to try to rein in spending and Republicans now have an excellent opportunity to do that with it that limit that's coming in a couple of months as wild and containing resolution one government funding -- -- to battles.
Where Republicans have leverage against Democrats.
Because we want to cut the size of government and Democrats have shown they are not you're expecting any.
-- -- We're gonna be watching this battle goes you can see it coming a mile off and we want your input as well -- adopt -- -- I don't -- -- okay thanks Eric we have.