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Well joining us now -- Bill Donohue president of the Catholic boy again bill I wanna service saying Merry Christmas.
And I want through -- -- are on the war on Christmas.
I mean this is getting to be a really who your kind of annual thing it doesn't seem to receive that one side or the other doesn't seem to ever prevail in the contention goes on.
Rule who's running.
Well I think I think the last couple years of somewhat optimistic we look back in the 1980s assaulting -- with the ACLU they -- -- the course that they had not -- from public policy.
In the ninety's -- -- got worse because that would get into multi cult rules in the got into the workplace the whole idea of not offending people.
But I would say it peaked around 20056.
And seven but what's come across my desk.
101112 I think the effect of changes moving -- -- Newsweek said.
It's all over at our side as one I think that's premature but I do think that others are Newsweek it's going out of business that's right that's certainly fit -- -- broad dollar that was -- because if these are outside our our shot out of first.
The first authority go to this site that is on the anti Christmas and what you know it's.
What's going on is that on the other side the atheist -- have -- very -- -- -- -- -- not -- I studied at a city Sydney look at NYU.
-- -- Jewish atheist that there was -- -- -- -- bone in his body would talking about the militant they used the aggressive atheist who are organized.
They have a whole Lotta grass roots support we do the people on the traditional aside that's why.
No you -- generals and troops in order to -- a -- to war.
Right now it's in the hands a lot of the troops believe me.
I could get -- one thing after another where our side has been able to win some does with the help of organizations like the Catholic league of the Thomas More law sector.
But all the talk because the people who take into the wrong hands the atheist have turned people -- and that's because they have a negative message.
I don't just say the good for goodness sake.
What organization did did that a few years it would have a problem that.
Now I don't get pictures of Jesus and it would -- with a crowd of the -- blood coming down his face exploiting this imagery this Catholic iconic graphic for a cheap political point.
That's what's turning people against the militant atheists.
And small communities all over the country in which these national you and I -- -- -- their names that nationally is that organizations but some.
Smaller groups as well.
-- choosing to sue to attack threatened suit against these small communities.
Who and those communities and -- a few of them have been coward.
-- by the the expense that they're facing the day and the time constraint.
Constraints that would be imposed on their city officials.
It's sure you know -- a lot of ignorance on our side about this for example people say you can't have -- up.
I nativity scene on public property I was told that by the city of New York education department's -- would then they need to Sumi.
-- -- -- assume the New York City -- what it.
Eleven blocks of here on fifty ninth and fifth we have a life size nativity scene the Catholic -- on public property.
Not surrounded by secular symbols it's entirely legal.
If I put on the on the grounds of City Hall one could argue that that gives a certain kind of a governmental endorsement I respect that augment.
But this is open to autos to musicians is open to Catholics and Protestants and Jews and that the biggest moment -- nor there the world but for Jews people need to understand.
The biggest have been lying to -- don't believe their nonsense.
We've got up I thought I didn't really difficult volume thank you very much Chris yeah you have a very very -- Merry -- -- thank you very.
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