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“On Killing” author Lt. Col. Dave Grossman on the potential impact of violence in video games and movies on behavior.
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Is grievously.
Joining us now -- is one of the foremost -- experts from violence in media.
He is lieutenant colonel Dave Grossman former psychology professor -- West Point.
Author of the Pulitzer Prize nominated on killing the psychological cost of learning to kill.
In war and in society.
Is good -- -- to be your colonel I wanna start with the idea.
That is not being discussed right now there is some discussion obviously -- reflect certain.
Answer which is -- -- take away the guns.
The reflexive answer riches is if and to be.
Simply that they a psychological problem part of one young man.
You see it is a much.
Broader and more profound problem than even that.
-- the first thing -- don't understand.
Is this is a world -- phenomenon.
Germany had to Messmer Anderson high school would be callable and -- -- England thirty years after the most Richard go laws passed it hunger -- had their most horrible -- massacre.
-- -- Norway has some of the most strictest gun laws on the planet.
And they get -- -- got on the island and Norway's ever murdered or their pets but we don't understand something new which happen.
At the gardens have always been there we -- working hard to keep guns out of the hands of kids but there is something profound -- new.
And we don't focus on that that we completely missed the issue here what he worries that.
What is that -- new.
That that change that has overtaken us our society.
This can lead and is not a nominal.
And what is got that new factored that was never there before.
Is violent visual imagery inflicted upon children particularly the video games -- on our our nation's number one -- of law enforcement.
Man hours contact hours classes anywhere you want to measure.
I'm one -- board meeting trainers of military.
I've got eight bestselling video series for preparing the individual citizen.
To be able to use deadly force at the moment of truth.
And from all those perspectives we know.
-- simulations.
And visualization.
And mental rehearsal is absolutely essential to performance on the battlefield.
And the video games are providing the exact same thing.
To the children without the safeguards and that -- would you -- the ingredient of children who have any difficulty autistic child mentally ill child.
The learning disabled child the impact is even greater I work for schools nationwide -- -- -- do school safety training.
Across America and into this heartbreaking.
When the special Ed teachers come up through and that talked about how they're precious special Ed children are so.
Horrible be influenced by these violent movies and these violent video games and worst of all.
It's when you have apparent over -- overwhelmed.
With the disabled or emotionally ill child.
And they turn to the video games to escape.
The video games are addictive there -- seductive they create sleep deprivation of sleep deprivation several major -- permit holder was depression and suicide.
The video games are a major factor in our suicides we see it in our military.
When we look at our military suicides were beginning to realize sleep current provision.
It's a critical factor in the suicides and the video games are key factor in the sleep deprivation please -- -- it.
I I'd like you to react Samuel Jackson he's.
That one of the stars in this movie.
But under our.
That's it Django unchained.
The one in which Jamie -- and he gets to kill us white people of by the way -- -- -- think what would have been the reaction has a point -- that he gets to kill black people.
But to the point with Samuel L.
Jackson he says he disagrees.
That this is -- about people.
Going to movies or video games.
That have violence and he said it doesn't.
Does anything to do it what would you say that mr.
-- Would you know would we take an individual.
Who's on the cable one where the other and there's millions and millions of people like that in America today.
And you feed them to shift its video games in the sickest movies that big kid to be Avis Jones -- middle school -- when my high school.
Virginia Tech in the colleges -- -- now given -- fell as adults in our movie theaters in our schools.
Did he do you mass murders -- was it -- your Wall Street Journal article just today.
That the mass murders are skyrocketing.
Across America and across the planet -- -- is a world wide phenomenon.
There is only one new factor in the equation.
All the old problems are still there and there's still important.
But the new factor.
Is that death and horror fed -- children to ship this movies and that showed this video games are very very sick indeed what do you think -- the -- are you not think.
What do you think -- arms -- colonel.
That President Obama.
Members of his party in congress in particular.
Well then call for a a a an intensive.
Investigation.
And examination.
Of media and Hollywood I think -- our role by creating this kind of environment.
Lou I think the odds of Hollywood doing of the odds of this president.
Doing intensive study an intensive.
Investigation of the impact of video games and Hollywood are slim to none.
It maybe get higher gold.
Meeting notes -- gonna happen we'll see.
But it is that higher gold bread debt that the -- hearing being dragged across the path again her guns it's all about the guns -- it's them mantra.
Really they refuse to point the camera at themselves.
And -- and we're never gonna do exactly.
When that we're gonna point the camera and then we're gonna continue this.
Discussion and we are going to continue what is sure to be a significant national discussion of all the contribute -- -- tragedy American legion.
Think you know we -- and -- here colonel Dave Ross jobless.
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