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Finding Middle Ground in Fiscal Cliff Negotiations

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    Former Rep. Dick Armey, (R-Texas), weighs in on fiscal cliff negotiations.

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So -- more on the fiscal -- speaker Boehner is latest proposal let's bring in former Republican House majority leader Dick Armey.

Joining us now from Dallas leader Armey thanks so much for joining us.

Out what -- was like behind closed doors -- -- -- someone who's been there what what what's the dialogue like do you think.

Rather it's a very difficult circumstance we're -- we used to have these meeting for President Clinton.

We had an informed respect for one another I'm not for sure that John Boehner enjoys that opportunity with this president.

And you have to understand that the people that he has to go back and talk to understand the fiction.

In Washington if you say trillion dollars in tax increase that is in fact a trillion dollars more taxes paid.

Say a trillion dollars in spending cuts that does not mean anything except.

There's a trillion dollars less of an increase in what we have previously expected to have.

Tax cut is a fiction in Washington -- he cannot sell he cannot take -- agreed to a deal that doesn't.

Is an acceptable to a majority of his -- Already there isn't simply even -- -- the tax fine as well though leader -- ending when you say that trillion dollars part of it comes from raising taxes on those who make over a million dollars.

He -- Democrats would say the other part comes from closing loopholes down the road so that's not necessarily spell that either it all makes me think.

That we're not that close to a deal yet.

Not Asia it has also -- what you have is you have something with a lot of -- ads.

But never get tied up that -- -- through the night and on down the road.

I think John Boehner and bless his heart he's got the toughest job in town.

Because he lives in a horizontal.

World as -- -- of the vertical world that the president lives it.

President says I want -- and everybody should -- yes sir Mr.

President John Boehner says I want -- -- half the people whose votes you need tell me go to.

I think it sounds so get your values experience for -- negotiations now.

Where do you think the Mittal is right now I mean how much do you feel like John -- really gave.

And and what do you think the president would it would it except based on what we've seen today where do you think the middle of the meeting cornice.

It is very difficult job because -- because of the question.

Truth on taxes fiction on cuts it's very hard to get there.

A dollar for dollar increase in.

Koch at real question quotation marks.

-- increase in taxes is not I don't think it's something his -- forget he's got to go further specially if he's talking about.

We'll give you the that debt ceiling increase remember I most of his conference members believe that is their final point -- leveraged.

To get to the Democrats to agree to anything -- is that you're -- and I'm here I'm cannot count the debt ceiling no matter what hang on to that -- Yeah I think the question on that taxes -- frankly.

It's a nominal thing it's -- eagle.

Trip thing for the president.

But quite frankly is of nominal value to -- deficit reduction and our area and we now spending about eight days.

PI it'll be spent a while attractive if -- bumping up to a million dollars and far less than that for a fact only a matter is.

-- my I think John's.

Got too much of a sense of -- need to come to agreement with the president.

I'm a big believer and regular order let him send to bills through the house leave it to the senate to take up on.

The two bills let the president.

And -- have to deal with legislation coming from the legislative.

Body I a and I don't think that this president is well informed and up astute enough -- has enough ideological flexibility.

To come -- and agree yeah.

You're honest person -- can only -- very clever strategy do you think that there is still enough time because that they sent the bills through right now.

Then at the last minute before we went over to quit that would be up to the president.

To accept it.

Or take the blame for taking us over the clip that.

But other it is there anyone thinking this is the dominant strategy because that's very clever and -- -- wondered whether people suggest that.

-- out quite frankly they're -- question user enough time I take a look at the major legislative things that have been done in the last.

7810 years it's always done -- -- legislative panic.

-- -- -- -- -- -- to the floor gets something nobody seen before.

Watch this past real read -- find out what's in it cowboy kind of a Malarkey deal.

I don't know yes there's enough time -- I think I would expect front month John Boehner as speaker.

There's a higher level -- quality of workmanship.

He is a very able person he's capable putting together good bill that has real substance in it.

And I would expect him to do that.

Former house majority leader Dick Armey thanks for coming -- I like that -- thank you we'll see big deal that he's a real insider I was -- stuff what an interesting take two bills through congress -- -- Sounds great to me.

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