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North Korea Making Strides Toward ICBM?

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    Author Gordon Chang on the recent launch of a long-range missile in North Korea.

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And -- I was -- -- chastised by Bernardin.

Coddle.

All because -- -- -- I was enthusiastically.

Supportive.

Of the north Koreans.

Finally successfully launching rock and -- Just even know although there but I'm part of not a mental model of an all of their people are starving -- don't.

And a -- potentially.

Some some threat to hold your neighbor's.

House.

So license.

And walked that back as there's an all but tell me Richard Clinton -- and -- -- what they've done is really stunning because under very difficult circumstances and within time time constraints.

They analyzed their failure of their April 15 launch and end of April launch.

And -- essentially what they did was -- -- accomplish something that is very difficult they had a clean separation between their second and third stage.

They put an object and orbit they've demonstrated basically that they can -- -- nuclear warhead in another country.

Within may be eighteen months perhaps a year so it is very interest saying that they have been able to -- stunned the international community.

Always such as China supportive of those are not.

If they are mostly supportive cousin that April 15 military trade -- -- we saw at six launchers moved -- mobile missiles.

And those came from China and that makes North Korea really dangerous because you can hide those missiles and so you really have a big deterrent.

And and the thing about China is that yes they sometimes try to rein in the north Koreans.

But for the most part they're keeping the north Koreans in business with a lot of food a lot of oil and sometimes technical support.

-- the conditions are better prepared for our.

But -- disarmed China doesn't -- but -- I don't know -- not enough I mean there's six million out of 21 million north Koreans are basically.

Malnourished.

You know the average North Korean is about two and a half inches shorter than a South Korean counterpart.

So things are pretty bad there.

But -- Kim regime purposefully does that because it means that the population can't resist so it's a very successful formula for keep yourself from power did you say -- Don't forget what her -- was -- in China or North Korea or somewhere.

The picked up -- story from the satirical newspaper the -- -- name don't know what's his -- Kim -- on the sexiest man alive and People's Daily which is the mouthpiece of the Communist Party -- the most awe authoritative source in China.

Thought it was serious now this is not the first time that they've made a mistake of picking something up from the -- -- -- members as brother music.

-- it is -- but I don't alternate.

What chairman and what's his name.

Channing Tatum and and -- Russia.

Couples -- an interim order of easy to this announcement at 1211 and a sixth avenue as as the first time -- -- -- amid all the right.

Yeah that's because -- -- I was supposed to be here.

-- but my wife lost her diamond just as we -- getting into the car so you'll also want her -- around her neck.

Which I gave to her which is really more important to her than her wedding ring because I gave it to her when I left Hong Kong in laughter there.

And it was a means of saying to her I was gonna come back and marry her -- will be couldn't find it and we went into a panic and finally.

The last place I looked I put my hand into the toilet.

And -- it was at the bottom of it.

And we were just so relieved because that is more important heard anything in the world all felonies on me while secures -- -- -- sell it and that's why we were here and and the and I felt really bad about it 'cause we -- -- by phone but on the other hand.

I save the diamond.

-- have pretty -- I'm actually more happy to have triple on the phone unclear -- Because.

The attention span -- Hummingbird.

And then if you command if people coming on we have to -- coffee.

And then -- have to actually pay attention.

Under control of fire may have to look at -- I'm talking because of fire weren't sure on the phone -- -- check my email and -- off for whatever some but I don't.

Saw.

Because you're dissident China and North Korea and -- on issues.

You must have some interest in the next secretary of State's economy.

What was your room where he says this -- rice's.

Letter of the browser.

She -- Susan Rice was blamed really for the policies of the White House the mean she got basically an attitude which was transmitted down from the president himself.

As other Republicans picked on her and I think that Obama was right when he said look if you have a problem come at me.

Leaves Susan Rice a long term -- I don't think Susan rice's the brightest star in the Obama administration and I think they're better candidates for secretary of state but it really wasn't her fault.

-- -- to -- probably become national security advisor.

The god help us but yet that's possibility a -- important possession alone now more important and secretary of state relying.

-- because you're with the president all the time.

You're making decisions you're coordinating really the responses of the entire government and you're just you know much closer to power -- the secretary of state.

And that's a position -- -- after the confirm this morning I think that the senate to confirm what does I think so no not the and it's not at all doesn't.

-- while our thanks to learn to.

Solve.

War and -- there are about a generational of their ability to buy and analysts are like.

Well you know it's Chuck Hagel I think would probably be better but they're considering him for secretary of defense.

To.

-- -- -- I think John Kerry knows a lot but I think he comes to a lot of wrong decisions like for instance he had thought about.

You know in the Iraq War he needs basically made every mistake going back to the first gulf war so yeah he's very intelligent -- knows all the issues but.

I'd rather see someone to better judgment course on his good credit line all put up -- fall no because I'd fire I don't agree with -- and I don't want to -- no way of what -- -- of his policies or shadow most of but there's a good man you know but were we do have to factor -- that he did that John Edwards but could -- the end of the one of them.

Biggest drawbacks ever -- I mean the scum illegals gonna save got to have better judgment.

But actors -- remember.

All of the first time I met John Edwards.

And I believe it was 11.

That's when he was running for nominal -- I was a while ago and recent colleges you guys were because it FAA and you have a student -- had to be.

But don't make any difference of them but you've been running for president or -- of a different approach.

And I've also -- came in -- studio.

And I Charles -- program.

And I want him when he left us on the Charles chuck concede you're still under watch him because -- seem like reform is most transparent -- and there's a lot of morale especially in Washington -- but I was among the worst he just seemed.

Anyway it's -- to -- our Internet excellent where -- soldier current relationship with China.

It's always spends.

Well you know it's getting worse because -- -- -- -- well because you know for four decades we tried to engage the Chinese and bring them into the international system and and we really look to them to rein in North Korea.

But what -- did was we used the one currency that really matters time.

You know we let the Chinese sort of determine the pace of negotiations we let them determine a lot of stuff.

And during that time the north Koreans not only detonated -- to their devices but they tested long range missiles.

And so do this is -- Bush Administration policy which of course has been continued by the Obama administration but it hasn't worked.

And we've got to stop North Korea because pretty soon they're gonna be able to take out an American city.

That missile that they launched a couple days ago probably has the range to hit Seattle in May be even -- Angeles.

It doesn't take them very much more to be able to fit the warhead on top and so really we don't have very much time and that means we gotta take matters into our own hands.

Want to -- leveraged -- -- -- with China.

Well last year China's merchandise trade surplus against the US.

Was -- 190.

Point 5% of its overall trade surplus that means they're running -- deficits with the rest of the world.

So they could run a big surplus against us that gives us leverage.

But only if we use it.

Why won't -- Well because a lot of people think that China owns us and that they have much more power over us -- we over them that's completely wrong.

I'm gives you look at their economy it's completely geared to selling things to the United States -- -- a -- -- saying.

She's an oversight assessment -- percent trump trump Pia now yeah and and he's right about that we have a lot of money out to -- -- -- lot of things that trump is wrong about but in terms of relationship with China now he gets -- much better than you know the president.

George W.

Bush and most of people who want in Washington.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- On Christmas but thanks very much -- -- anti Connell as well thank you Gordon I'm sure gonna give me a hard time to the coming year right well no we're not gonna do -- -- -- we're just -- there was a -- you.

And I'm glad to go to diamond I can now.

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