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And that song imagine John -- suggest that if there were no religion we live in -- And given all the people killed in the crusades and Islamic holy wars he's got a point.
But it's also true that millions of people were murdered by atheists.
Sixty to a hundred million depending how you define murder talking about now Hitler style.
Larry -- and says it's because they were -- that they'd still -- You don't know that when he -- well.
-- -- -- the way the Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky but it and that is that there.
Is no immortality there can be no virtue and all things are permissible -- -- to -- -- -- There is no gone -- -- anything goes -- you can do whatever you can get away with the net.
Clearly was was part of the driving force behind some of those.
I don't know IAE and not convinced there's a -- I still try to do good things 'cause I wanna do good thing.
-- doesn't play into it.
I don't think the point here is that if you are an atheist it it always equals genocide and I didn't say if you permanent master and -- sure of if if you are sure there's a guy.
All right but we do know this that that these were very definitely.
On states that that at a at at a governmental.
Atheism and the result was some wired -- to get eliminated religion it very very definitely.
But then from the top down they were it's is this a story about big government killing people people will dictate on the -- it didn't matter if the people were religious or.
Listen I think big -- governments are part of the problem here but if you alternately believe that there's no one to judge in the next line if you are actions and that's one.
I think it remove some of the outside of the incentive for for good behavior and and perhaps you begin to see your fellow man has nothing more than an accident to space and time.
What about all the Christian crusaders who kill people.
I wouldn't first of all begin to deny that many evil things have been done in the name of religion many evil things have been done in the name of science.
On as well but I don't think we would say that science is evil.
And -- and I'm not prepared to say that all religion is evil certainly -- say that that those killings that we're done in the name of Christ.
Were not consistent with Christ's own teachings so.
In that case I would say that religion was hijacked.
Justice we might say that -- the -- dot eugenics movement hijack science.
Your book the Grayson.
Argues that when people are religious.
Good things spread -- me.
Well I mean this that when there is say a significant.
Presence of Christians within a -- and I'm not speaking up.
All of all religions here if Chris John speaking specifically of christianity.
That there is a reciprocal.
On a fact that.
On -- sought more care for the poor there's more carefully elderly there's more care for the sick for the orphaned.
I and I think the data bears this now -- the numbers it's all it's a remarkable guy it's it is it really is I'm John via.
The average person who calls themselves on a Christian which we know is a very high number in this in this country.
Gives three times as much of their money and their time to charities the average evangelical.
Gives ten times as much when you begin to apply that to an entire -- You begin to understand why in countries where there -- an absence of a vibrant church.
There is also.
A lack of concern for the war for the for the ones that Jesus called the least of these.
You even go on to say that in the declaration of independence where it's as we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal.
The only way a statement like that makes sense.
Is if man is in doubt by his creator.
Yet certain inalienable right that's right a statement like that only makes sense with in a Christian context that is to say what is what what what is self evident -- about the equality of man it's just right.
Well but but it isn't because no no other.
Nation would would have that particular view or lettuce to say no no -- outside of the west.
We believe that because we have been heavily influenced by Judeo Christian -- -- lies.
The only thing that is self evident -- -- man is his inequality.
I'm social physical.
Intellectual that there -- massive -- all these so what does a statement like that means it means that in some.
-- spiritual sense that men are equal and that of course only makes sense if there's a couple of thank you Larry -- and coming up my.
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