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First guest tonight here to talk about whether blood will be spilled over Michigan becoming a right to work state joining us now -- -- go to Manhattan institute -- -- fellow.
Mark mix the president of the national right to work defense foundation welcome to you both and mark let me begin with you.
24 states now right to work had governor -- show they are going governor New Hampshire are not veto it.
-- there would have been 25 that's an impressive.
If you will.
To mark here -- That's right Lou this is exciting with the Indiana's passage of the 23 right to work -- on February 1 and now Michigan's passage of the 44.
It's been a good year and it's important.
Battle and patent victory in Michigan and your description -- it was spot on and this is about ending compulsory dues payments to union officials that's it.
And -- that you're listening to the president.
Yesterday in Michigan.
You would have thought that there were trying to -- down collective bargaining entity in the rights for organized.
I mean his -- hyperbolic language was extraordinary.
Well considering that the union movement just spent 400 million dollars to pull him get elected Wilkins who expected to say it's the same thing we saw in -- Wisconsin there's actually.
And this is -- off in the media -- market you know you ask me a question I'm an answer yet what I would always expected the president the United States.
Is to be definitive.
Plain spoken and clear.
To say what it means the mean what -- -- is that too much on any issue well I think what he he well he he wants to believe.
That this really will do things.
Like cut wages.
Whereas what we see in states that are right to work states is we've seen those states actually being places where people are migrating to.
Where businesses are migrating to places where we've seen economic growth.
But the president is heavily heavily supported by -- so is the Democratic Party in Washington music.
-- here -- market.
The Bureau of Economic Analysis following up on Steve's point.
Shows the average value of federal and private sector benefit packages federal workers and -- average benefits.
Compared to average benefits in the private sector top 101000 dollars we're looking at -- according -- Cato Institute.
-- -- the average pay of a government worker at 84000 dollars a year.
More dollars than the average pay in the private sector.
I mean these numbers are starting to be -- Obama and certainly have to be part.
Of what is if you will.
A more positive response to these right to work issues and votes that we're seeing across the country.
I think that's right Lou and he's he's -- to Manhattan -- -- he's done extraordinary work on this pointing out these differences but you're right.
Taxpayers are beginning to realize this monopoly power the unions have over government which is.
The new frontier for them more that final frontiers I would put it.
Is really causing a rift between the rank and file workers in the private sector who have to pay these taxes for increased government.
And the rank and file workers in the public sector the government sector they're enjoying benefits -- just can't go on that was the battle in Wisconsin that's part of the battle in Michigan for sure.
And -- cited as -- 2010 study by Richard better it in which you talk about.
The population growth of the right to work states were watching this union states.
Written and usually their high tax state yes we're watching and out migration from the states is that.
-- it's it's quite struck -- -- actually in 1970 about 28% of the population living right to work states.
By 2008 it was it was 40%.
It's now 43%.
And if Michigan.
And -- -- now become -- work that needs it's 46%.
Of the population if you -- population growth.
In places like Texas and Florida in coming years we could be at 15% or higher meaning more than half of the population country.
Living right works things within a couple of years as a dramatic change.
We're gonna see a strong.
Contests -- through Tony thirteen and I'm sure.
Mark -- me ask you this how many more states do you expect to add if any next year.
Well I would say 26 but that may take awhile.
Next -- you know this this is that this is -- really interesting development in the movement for Michigan to pass a right to work clock I think opens the door for any state to considerate.
I mean they're certainly states like Missouri that have been talking about right to work for a long time states like -- -- Montana.
New Hampshire as you mention although the political situation there has changed -- does change every two years.
But I think this idea of passing a -- work on Michigan is gonna open the eyes of many more people on policy makers and I think -- see the benefits and they'll see that the union rhetoric about what it does is just not true.
They'll see what Indiana scene that is 47000 new private sector jobs -- she would -- -- over the last ten years and right to work will be the law of the land before we know it.
You're declining through our offer us an estimate on how many states where where are.
-- right to -- states additionally -- next year.
We're working on 26 -- are well are gonna in the state and well I think Kentucky -- Kentucky Missouri are states that are having debates about this growing debates about and -- So there -- there are some that are actually active right now.
We've got some time here is failure winds down to solidify your support get and to get moving.
-- -- thank you both for being here appreciate it thank you partner taking -- the --