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Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero on the battle taking place in the Great Lakes State over union legislation.
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Listen to what President Obama said yesterday about this issue in Michigan.
Everything we can't take for companies like not hard to keep investing in American workers.
About a lawyer what we shouldn't.
-- I just gonna say that's what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away.
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Exactly what the president said he said that it is a right to bargain for better wages question does the union also have a right.
To force people to join a unit and pay -- to it.
Joining us now is an Arab -- -- Goods but narrow you ought to welcome to the program.
Does that he's good at that -- and I cannot -- Alaska may visit his right here on both sides.
Does the union have the right to take money off its members if those members don't want to pay to the union.
Well.
There right is of individuals to form a union.
And as you might know Stewart were down to about 17%.
Union unionized workforce in Michigan.
It's so hard to get to 17% is people make choices it's -- those workplaces have voted.
And and it's gone down over the years it may be higher than other states.
And the way it works is majority rules that's how democracy -- and the unions are the most are the most democratic of institutions a consultant with the way it works it will place and remember the union in Michigan.
Why it if I don't want to pay dues to that you'd -- -- I've got to go join the union to get the job.
Why should well that's 17% -- -- -- -- -- Have to pay money to that union and got -- -- -- Americans let me explain I don't know what's -- American -- what you're suggesting -- American is right to work let me explain why it's on American and undemocratic how could -- to what I'm -- I'm.
Automatic there's there's Robert denying their right to work -- let me I'm trying to explain -- to you why what you're saying is undemocratic and on American.
Okay this country is a democracy that's how we work majority rules so if the majority in a company.
Vote to be -- -- union then that's what that is just like -- if you live in New York -- you live in the Lansing you're gonna pay taxes in that city now you might not like the administration of government you might not like Bloomberg might not like -- but regardless you're gonna pay city taxes.
Or you can move out of the city.
Okay you can change the process you can get involved in this.
Way that you can you can I -- -- cannot foresee the you can vote I had to -- union -- you can vote against the new democracy in Michigan you're wrong.
He's voting to make Michigan a right to upstate back is the democratic process that's what's happening here and that's then what these people are doing is lawfully legally expressing their opinion today we got a bloody mess -- -- how can we got a blood -- that is -- that -- you're gonna let me throw this action.
In the last ten use.
The employment level the number of jobs in right to work state has gone up 10%.
Yeah.
They -- gonna -- the employment level.
In non right to -- states like Michigan has gone up 1%.
You know -- thing that has something to be said for being right to walk in terms of getting more jobs to -- state good jobs Toyota for example Honda will be.
And there's no more pro business mayor in that of the state and maybe in the country -- -- Guerrero.
But I'll say something as you know as a business reported there's three types of lies lies damn lies and statistics and I didn't make that up.
But the fact is I can show you statistics the other way the top six of the top ten states and unemployment six of the leading top ten unemployment states.
Our right to work states so that the -- there's numbers all over the map on this you know we all know that the -- so called Rust -- has had a tough time but were coming back and -- because of a -- the unions -- it because of right to work that that that has been the problem -- -- our jobs have been shipped overseas the units helped create the middle class in this country that's the reality and the decision -- -- worked -- the system works -- they broke don't fix -- there's no reason to -- there's no reason to be on -- Suggests that in Michigan you'll system is broke I would -- coward on South Dakota to get a jobs in the U auto industry Michigan and let me.
Do some of the public -- department -- during world yeah.
Michigan including what general better now well we've got to go -- about -- Toyota Lansing totally -- what work district why doesn't Toyota moved to Michigan.
Why not I'll tell you why I was thirty it and why doesn't Obama moved up to talk to Michigan what -- BMW what are they moved to Michigan well wonderful jobs that pay high wages good health benefits they don't move to Michigan because.
Of the right to look rules in that -- but concept I've got one more on that.
I've talked to a lot of Democrats on this program I've told to them about the expression -- families.
I can never get anybody to tell me what is a walking family and -- on I am not a looking family.
I have six children and seven grandchildren but I'm not a looking family can you tell me one.
Well my view Stewart is if you go to work every day and you have to go to work in order to get a paycheck you don't just this is my definition.
If you don't just rely on interest in comer river you have to go to work and ordered make money and your supporting a family -- your working family.
-- well in which carries the union is not supporting my looking family Internet -- Have a union shop should we should get the unions in their right away and has an awfully -- present action -- -- -- what -- -- -- the last one last question.
Do you think that apple would be the company of the fifties if you will unionized -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- There are problems in the unions have -- address those problems you can close your -- to a complete your kid yourself because -- -- -- -- child labor in this country you know we've come a long way and yet because of the unions the unions are still needed today I invite you to come to Michigan store so I can show -- the high quality world and -- -- I didn't have -- -- -- that.
Apple would never off.
Moved to Michigan I think I would nevertheless -- able to -- -- -- property and Iowa have been priced -- had a -- -- unionized General Motors have I have to I have other companies that have chosen Lansing Michigan I dare you to come to Michigan and take -- with me.
I've been to Michigan -- I've seen it well but apparently your eyes were calls -- I would not.
Though they -- not.
-- I don't and that blinded by the line to please comebacks.
You wanna apply John thanks so much -- -- -- -- doctor Stuart S the judge.
