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Foundation for Defense of Democracies V.P. of Research Jonathan Schanzer on the protests in Egypt and efforts to end the unrest in Syria.
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Breaking news tonight US officials confirmed that Egyptian authorities.
Have detained a man who's been described variously as perhaps.
An alleged ringleader.
Of an Egyptian terrorist network linked to the September 11 attack on the US our consulate in been Ghazi.
In which the United States investor and three other Americans were killed.
Also tonight Egypt's president Mohamed Morrissey urging national dialogue still but moving forward with -- referendum.
Autumn islamists back.
Backed constitution.
The New York Times bureau chief and -- David help because Patrick insisting that the Muslim Brotherhood is quote.
Not and I do quote nonviolent by nature and they have over the last couple of decades of all more and more -- -- moderate.
Conservative but religious moderate.
Regular old.
Political force.
Well joining us now is Jonathan trends are a former counterterrorism analyst at the department.
Treasury current vice president of research for the foundation for defense of democracies.
And it is good to have you with -- job of -- -- Your reaction to our Kirkpatrick.
Description -- you -- Well let me first say this that the brotherhood when it was founded.
Did have a violent arm.
And that was one of the reasons why the Egyptian government.
And that of railroading it out of -- political system now over time the brotherhood.
Has.
Did -- to be -- nonviolent organization over the last several decades.
But -- it is -- I'm and I'm gonna beg you for something because we are really crushed for time.
Yeah if you will let's -- -- let's history and worry your judgment.
Short while bottom line is that the brotherhood is -- is the cornerstone of every violent organization.
That we see out there today from al-Qaeda to Hamas and beyond.
And so it may not actually be fostering violence itself but it is spawned off many violent factions.
And and in Egypt your expectations as to walk the course.
We're course where we witnessed taken there.
Morrissey prevailing -- maintaining his powers what what do you expect.
It's hard to imagine more -- being dislodged.
You know he -- -- -- the the military that could have potentially overthrown him.
So at this point though we are hearing that the crowds are large.
That they see this is a zero sum game.
And I mean really it's gonna come down to whether this secular opposition can mobilize and whether they have the tools to bring him down it doesn't appear at this point that they do.
And and let's turn out through to Syria as you know the secretary of state a meeting with her or her Russian counterpart in Ireland.
Today saying the United States agrees with Russia.
And backing mediation.
To resolve the -- war.
Is there movement there or is it simply the perception of a of movement.
I don't buy it the Russians are our jealously guarding the port of -- choose this is where they have.
A significant military.
And financial investment in Syria they are -- patron of Syria it's very unlikely that the Russians are gonna help dislodge this thing.
And that's shame obviously because the Syrians are locking and loading chemical weapons we hear very dangerous reports coming out of Syria right now.
And and we learned that the and so -- -- One of the exiled leaders.
Hamas returning to Gaza today will not returning to but.
Going to Gaza from which you had been banned for 45 years are your reaction and an assessment of its significant.
Charlotte -- -- -- his the political leader of Hamas.
This is seen as a victory I'm not sure why the Israelis let him back again.
But Hamas is currently celebrating his 45 anniversary and they're also celebrating what they described.
As a victory over the Israelis despite the fact that the Israelis really dominated.
The battlefield during that war in Gaza two weeks ago.
Jonathan gender it's -- to have you with us we thank you so much appreciate -- my pleasure much.
