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-- look at gonna host boat doctors walked off as both launch and big businesses.
Our next guest is a small adopt -- the -- up and he offered to small business -- patent.
-- saw about not mix up that you are a doctor Europe chiropractor.
And you operate gilt contract is off is like a small business on I got that -- You got that right now -- you are going to stop taking any kind of insurance you want cash ugly and is that because of obamacare.
Yes and no Stewart is the thing is I decided to start going cash when I.
Realize that the bureaucracy was trying to tell me how to practice.
See my theory is when somebody comes in and they pay for -- service.
They deserve the best they deserve a 100% of view and if I have to talk to somebody about.
How I treat them or how many times I see them I'm not gonna go for and what I did -- I sent letters to the CEOs of these companies.
And I said look I don't like what you're doing I I -- these people if your clients are paying harder -- money to see me they're gonna get a 100% of me.
And I -- a five page CV.
With my you know letter with -- and basically I fired the insurance companies.
So and I said you know if you wanna change things I'd love to come back on the panel but yeah so -- -- -- like.
It's -- really it was a case of if you take a patient.
And you take their insurance coverage.
You've got to go of the not a whole bunch of forms -- you've got to talk to that payment -- patient in a particular way to explain what you're doing to comply with insurance company rules is that it.
Absolutely Stewart but the thing is.
What doctors do when you don't hear this but doctors in network are getting threatening letters I have -- -- -- copies of from Stuart what do they violating the basic what are what are they saying well.
They're saying like let's say for low back for instance you get to -- in chiropractic you get to treat seven visits furlough back case.
Now it doesn't matter whether they were looking a pool table -- -- it -- matter they were betting over in just brushing their -- seven visits if you go over -- seven visits they send you a letter that says look.
We've -- you're you're you're you're data you're you know and and you're going over so we have to put an end -- this you can't he picked.
So even if it even if you're in your mind you say.
I need to -- this person at least another two weeks a lot of doctors are discharging patients OK so quite honestly does Obama cap make back was.
It makes it worse no -- how to I -- -- but what is now.
If you have to if you don't do what you know is right you don't have results if you don't have results you lose patience.
A lot of people -- a lot of my own peers said it was professional suicide for me to fire insurance companies that -- you have to be on those panels.
You have to be in the books for people to find you.
And my comment was no you have to exalt patients you have to lift them up and listen to them and and if you debt so but -- Stewart I have to -- my my practice quadrupled.
My cash yes master yes -- -- question.
I don't know where you can answer this and about how much for a visit if I wanna come and get cracked that your office how much.
I'm cash prices are forty dollars a visit and you can't fix prices so we'll whatever -- built to insurance that's we charter so I think if you have result yet yet cracked tobacco whatever it is you do and is full of just like just you're just sitting right that that's it yet.
Yes I have but the good thing is what's what are what are results worth I mean if you get done enough to get -- -- that -- look I don't care about I wanna know about the money.
At did you reduce the price by going all cash because you no longer have now insurance company overhead that you got up night.
Now know because we have such be simple billing that I mean it's the same price insurance companies -- -- price down anyway so it's actually better to be cash.
You come -- you come back to the office you feel so good about yourself.
And you know you've been to a doctor Stewart -- you know doesn't -- -- be there a lot of these doctors are literally they're sick and tired of the insurance company and they're not giving a 100% of themselves to.
Doctor -- -- we appreciate being with -- that's very very interest and forty -- that's not bad.
Apple cash thanks very much I don't know promises again okay thank you -- what.
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