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“The Purpose Driven Life” author Pastor Rick Warren on what is needed to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff.
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Everybody knows what needs to be done.
What we got to do is figure out how they can each gracefully.
Do it has to be done in order to get to the promise that the speaker and you come.
Instruments.
In order to get that a promise land that was Erskine Bowles the co chair of by the president's debt commission -- -- -- of the Republican.
-- he went on to say letter that he's not optimistic a deal will be reached on -- Fiscal financial Armageddon you hear so much about by the end of the -- -- -- year that then then of course it does get to be look you know and -- -- -- -- to this economy may be a better address on on all these this is -- not pastor Rick Warren of course a subtle -- -- -- -- You know it's interesting about the purpose driven life on the ten year anniversary of one of the most often about -- -- -- books I think since the Bible.
Up but actually also tell you this in the reverend is a very modest man could -- -- the purpose driven life.
32 -- copies.
By comparison.
Bill O Reilly's killing -- -- the most popular votes of the country right now two million copies of so the reverend has sold sixteen.
Times the number of -- Bill O'Reilly which clearly tells me Bill O'Reilly is going to help start -- -- -- -- Kennedy.
I have made copies so he's way behind you but anyway I've been all good -- revenue pastor very good to have you -- economy.
Thanks feels -- to be back with you and it's ironic that I'm in New York City and you're -- LA today's.
I now why I know my laws -- our viewers -- just the same.
Up at tester what do you think it is it important.
That a deal is reached by the end of the year you will often remind.
You know parishioners in the light.
A rush job to be a bad job -- -- seems to be.
You know great pressure on these guys to produce something by the end of the year isn't that the good.
Well we do create false.
But.
The deadlines often and push ourselves and -- things that we need to do a little bit -- with more important make the right decision to make a fast decision.
Ten years from today people don't care how fast you made a decision they want to know -- the wise decision.
But this whole -- thing that we're looking at and I've been listening to the program.
Really boils that often boils down to he goes and I I was think it -- similar it is to wanna see a -- -- gridlock.
And having mastered and counsel -- hundreds of marriages that were caught in gridlock.
I would say you need to do the exact same things to break the gridlock.
-- in in congress and the White House.
That you do in a marriage the first thing you do is.
You decide you're gonna stop fixing the blame.
And start fixing the problem.
As long as you have only so much energy and long as you invest the energy in the blame which is basically what we did during the the cut campaign.
You spell blame be blamed much.
And anytime -- -- blaming is wasted time because you're not -- on the prime need to either fix -- problem or you fix the blame that's the first thing you need to do second thing you need to do.
As you need to abandon.
Malicious.
Motive.
Accusations.
In other words.
There are Republicans who are patriots and their Democrats -- patriots and a lot of the campaign was really more about the other guy's a jerk.
At the bet that that doesn't get you anywhere blaming the labeling.
Only creates more hard feelings -- -- her.
That was why you would you were going to holds both the candidates -- as I said it was the environment and atmosphere.
That prompted view.
To sell that time I wasn't sure that was great opportunity -- Yeah I wasn't sure is going to be that that important.
But early in that the election cycle long before they chose the Republican candidate.
Both campaigns to -- contact three I talked to both the White House that I talked -- that they revolving campaign and everybody is favorable to doing this.
But as it got closer to the -- -- -- struck by a I had my heart really wasn't in it.
I I it was thought maybe we can work -- some other areas but -- when you start.
Choosing to assume.
Motivation.
You're on -- -- I don't know my own motive most of the time so out tonight judge jurors and and if you assume that a person's malicious.
Motive is malicious.
You're not gonna get too far.
Far down the road in in in breaking that gridlock you have to listen.
Without an erupting.
That's an almost impossible -- to do but you have to do that -- have to let them save their.
Well clients by that I don't buy that still there because not to -- -- -- -- practice that I wouldn't have a job cuts but but let me direct eight here's what I have a problem with and I do agree via the point that they -- still point fingers and blame it was senator Durbin the other day said.
You know little man -- remind my Republican got friends that they were piling up trillions of dollars mil in debt making no mention of the fact that the president's on the set.
And conversing Republicans getting high and mighty at the president got a reckless spending will they were pretty good that it's I think it's fair to say that we're in the pickle where -- Because both parties contributed to -- they I'm telling you at best -- they don't get past that.
And that's why don't think a deal is done at least a deal that will be constructed because they still play these same ridiculous -- Well one of the key things -- you gotta do when in deadlock is you gotta get small wins.
Because small wind starts the momentum going you start moving forward you're not gonna get the better smaller -- -- give me an example of a small -- I don't know I I would just say find something that you can agree on now let's look at this all Americans essentially want the same thing.
What we disagree on is the methodology and how to get there everybody wants their family grow -- safe everybody wants to kids to be healthy.
Yeah everybody wants to prosper have a job everybody wants to be free everybody wants our nation be protected.
Now what we disagree on is what's the methodology.
Of how you get there and there are two primary.
Streams of thought and that is the freedom approach.
Which is -- less the government.
And there is the more government -- are more control less -- more control.
I -- don't believe that you grow with control personally I think you have to decide -- you want -- growth.
In most things that that -- when you let things.
Grow then you give up control in order to watch them grow.
