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Just say unions failing miserably to shut down wal mart's all over the country didn't work.
After union activists couldn't gin up enough Wal-Mart -- to join a protest -- this just part.
Of the failure of unions to stop their bleeding as they continue to lose workers in the private workforce.
And even though they got the president of their choice reelected they just lost a huge bid to increase their power in Michigan.
After losing a referendum to change the Michigan State constitution by an overwhelming vote of 58 to 42.
So our unions losing strength despite.
The reelection of the most union friendly president our lifetime joining us now Vincent for new GO he is director of labor policy for the back on center for public policy.
And which is in Michigan we'll talk about that dissect what about this Wal-Mart protests -- pretty bad failure on the union.
I was a huge guy and it's absolutely tone deaf you know you're talking about what happened in Michigan you talk about -- killing 181000 jobs that hostess in killing the twenty.
That you're talking about Wal-Mart and you notice that all the headlines -- the protestor outside the Wal-Mart stores.
What they did help Wal-Mart associates in these puts at Wal-Mart associates -- -- Right but Jeff points out an interesting thing which is that very often they will play on the concerns of the -- even though the workers don't wanna be unionize the units will come -- say will help you.
Get higher pay will help you with better benefits -- that are even if you don't wanna join us so they kind of -- -- -- That well what it's funny how they're trying to -- they're trying to take away business from Paul -- get the workers at a pay you know it's dollars and that's it just doesn't work that like.
What you have CW raising gauged -- here's what's known as a corporate campaign which is where they're trying to hurt wal mart's reputation of time take away business from -- what.
So Wal-Mart will capitulate.
And given to something called neutrality agreement which takes away the secret ballot of workers because they -- -- -- -- campaign to intimidate workers into joining their union and paying Forestar.
Let's move to Michigan because said this is this has been overlooked by the media focusing of course in the presidential election.
The unions spent millions and millions of dollars trying to change the Michigan State constitution there was a referendum on that.
Which would have made it much more difficult for the states who have in -- a some kind of adopted some kind of right to work claw like they have in Wisconsin and Indiana and elsewhere.
How much of -- import is this loss to the unions.
Hello wasn't just trying to ban right to work there we're trying to give government unions and effective veto over past present future legislation.
What kind of legislation would they've had veto over.
Any thing -- government unions that were affected hour's wages and terms and conditions of employment and David you know what atomic condition of employment -- be something as mundane as the price of candy in a vending machine so while unions do score in terms of presidential have been able to bring out there union workforce to help get their president reelected.
And the local level they keep losing state after state Michigan was the Wisconsin.
That governor real recount I mean they failed miserably on that as well.
That's an -- you know they lost by over ten points with -- governor Walker's recall in Wisconsin that was referendum on his union reforms they -- They lost 42 to 58 in Michigan -- what was their number one priority on the ballot besides the presidential Michigan.
Yet both those statements.
Kept elect re electing Democrats they both sent Democrat senators who while Washington they both reelected.
Obama by a resounding margin.
So you gotta say what wait a minute even -- you know.
Dyed in the wool Democrat voters that a vote for Obama voting for Democrats they're not voting for union issues that unions have a serious problem K well very quickly will President Obama and his Justice Department be able to in -- overrule.
The states on on their measures which the unions don't like oh they're a tribe by L we saw the tenth Bennett and it's going to be very difficult and -- trying to pull stuff through the National Labor Relations Board but especially for the government unions I think it's gonna be really difficult is there any way though that debt for example a state of Wisconsin or other states that have right to work laws.
Might have the feds come in have they tried it so far have defense committed try to overturn.
The substance of what those laws represent well you're talking about right to work laws and and you saw the payback they gave Boeing itself Carolina -- non they try what adopt Boeing tried opening new factory there.
So he had this administration the Obama administration is not above.
Trying to -- hurt right to work states up for their union allies even though the unions keep losing state by state by say we gonna -- that like.
-- and produce you're good to see -- instead David thanks for having me I absolutely tracing back you.