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Esaun Pinto of CPI Investigations discusses his effort to catch those committing insurance fraud by claiming mood disorders.
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Eight million people currently collecting Social Security disability benefits one point three million of them qualified because they have what -- described as mood disorders one point three million.
Joining us now is -- on Pinto CPI investigations.
Last time you India you shed some of -- secret -- catching people are thinking.
Back injuries it's all right how would you catch people who may be -- -- mood disorders.
I -- estimate that -- that the weakest point wolf what I try to do is what are the subject that's that's alleging something workable mental disorder.
Our target consumer in the natural element in our formal mutual more.
Short -- conversation.
A lot of times if you like it's corporate -- the what did you find joy -- in and therefore.
Now -- most of what you do is insurance fraud that's the private side of the artists and so somebody claims some kind of disability from an insurance company.
You figure out whether their religion on offs.
Now we're talking here about Social Security disability which is a government function.
And this is mood disorders if you wanted to track down fake us you do the same thing you'd literally.
Told to allow two elections which are on round actual you know really depressed on news that -- said.
I wouldn't put in march of -- more garbage at my door for war in the and they weren't.
And sort of reconnaissance and pretty big on people are talking if you're confident -- -- our.
There are many of -- -- from Magellan minerals will slow torque.
And then they'll print we will be -- what do you do for a living in the film opened -- -- discussion -- the -- I don't -- video.
And or -- treat them that the conversation.
And -- -- -- -- -- move forward you have little camera you bought homes something like mark today.
Not content apathetic -- YouTube of course we are -- and of course of course we revelers -- -- years ago which you've got to spend an enormous amount of time proving.
-- that mental disability.
Mood disorder that rules -- very different.
How much time we get to spend on each subject through it all depends on the old from the situation from terms were allowed swami.
-- crucial because -- How important cases it is our people shame.
Most determined and really know most from time America.
Forces on the -- the don't know overly beat the -- that's have a look at this morning in the system.
And the system is there to be beaten that's -- -- I don't know what I think the federal government needs to contract with you today due to ferret out fraud in Medicare in so many other social welfare programs.
We need you make the call you.
-- I I'm gonna put it to you bluntly the -- You cannot ferret out fraud successfully when it comes to mood disorders.
It's very difficult it's very -- so what was saying yes one point three million people getting mood disorder disability payments.
I don't know how many Obama a fraud and I have no way of knowing one's appearance simply don't know.
But if they were faking it.
You but he can catch them and it's almost impossible is -- almost -- -- construction.
I had to do that historical performance from -- who has -- in the book that's from which of this one point three million people -- and as a miniscule number of people available to check them.
The other thing that you didn't you may find that they're working they're different that they can't work because -- this December or fortune may affirmative doing something off the books and absorbed in the course of Washington wants -- may find that they're doing something or the -- that they shouldn't be able to do because -- this story.
I am told that in the private sector when the American insurance claim for disability of some -- you make a claim that you -- no longer able to function sexually.
I hear that's a big claim is that correct to -- is now how cue for move someone is thinking.
Yeah.
A -- Google search and jurors -- yeah.
That's that's a little as the eastern district so if I claim sexual dysfunction for example if I -- to say that.
I'm pretty much home break would you accept my plan.
-- -- -- -- -- I've I've got you crucial pit of the best in the business I've -- -- -- go on get uncomfortable as you say what percentage would you say.
Is actually real illness because -- people who suffer from real a mental illnesses so I -- among those jury investigating what's the percentage Ronald.
-- really don't know are.
I don't know -- in terms of the cases that we've that we've investigated.
Maybe 25%.
Interest.
One point three million people which around him big number he Sandra -- is always a pleasure having you with -- Omar we're waiting tonight government -- to come through -- you.
Get on the case that our.
