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I mean now -- election night a team and Rollins veteran campaign strategist.
Former Reagan political director Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Fox News contributor Michael Goodwin democratic strategist.
And -- -- -- good to have you with us well let's start with this race as we look at what is happening here.
The president rested today if you will.
Although he did a number of interviews do go to there was campaign staff.
Governor Romney on the move still campaigning.
What you believe that signifies if -- nothing.
-- now my at all.
Pro life -- rate both these candidates are going down to the last hour.
Doing everything they can't generate the -- part of the -- strategy for the Obama camp was of course the cost of supporting it -- it when they come into the state can be very distracting from the get out the vote drive so president bomb was doing a lot of remote interviews.
Governor Romney's trying to make a last minute -- for Pennsylvania did -- the hail Mary pass in my opinion.
Let's see what happens aren't Michael -- what do you think will happen what is your sense of what is happening.
Well -- you mentioned that your in your lead -- that that neither candidate could be comfortable I think that's exactly right because this week we sold them both in states that they assumed they had already locked up a Romney in Virginia and Florida.
President Obama in Wisconsin of all places in Pennsylvania these were supposed to be safe and each camp so look I I think that that the heavy turnout.
Is something that in general.
You you can define that favors a one or the other I think that more people vote the better I think that will make it a better election also make -- a longer night.
But it might my bet is that Mitt -- is gonna pull out the Electoral College.
And you mentioned turn -- turn out we're hearing variously described across all of these battleground states and it is amazing.
What do you make of that because we've been told for example.
That heavy turnout would favor the president but.
The covered of that was.
But that governor Romney needed a high percentage of white voters in which.
To prevail tonight what do you make I admitted that that the American public on both sides so this is it as it campaign that really matter to them and measurably.
It's been a lot of people today -- if you.
You heard President Obama government struggling with his board governor governor Romney I think -- intensified the Republicans vote began as an anti Obama -- become very pro Romney vote.
-- gigantic crowds.
The last closing days of the campaign and I think that's it that's a good sign can be very very close election but I think it's -- when it.
And as you look at this race.
What do you.
What do you expect to be the pivotal place and as we look at this you know whether it's Indiana Kentucky we know we're gonna have.
Some fractured votes there because of the various time zones that in those two states.
But then we moved to to the big guys Florida and Virginia North Carolina Ohio very quickly.
Well you put it very well here introductory comments.
Virginia is the First Act that's really worth watching because very frankly as Virginia goes that Mitt Romney doesn't carry Virginia it's a much tougher map for him to get this.
To get to 270.
And the Obama -- putting major efforts there you've got to assume that.
You've got to assume that Romney may have -- upper hand.
I'm going into that State's voting history but the bottom line is -- to be very critical for Mitt Romney's very hard to get there without it.
And then of course we go to Ohio and this -- come -- Ohio I think we're it's gonna be decided.
Is going to be in the suburban regions that's why I think the model discounting on a white vote for Mitt -- is not going to be sufficient you -- a lot of swing suburbanites I think standing up for President Obama.
I'm from the prepared to tell usually get 303 electoral votes -- this is over.
303 and and Michael just told us that but the governor Romney's gonna win -- -- that somebody had to scramble out I don't at all like red carpet up trouble.
What do you make of that can you see one of these candidates.
Obviously believe it will be governor Romney but 300 that sounds a like a lot.
A to a race that as we look down all of these polls say it's -- is it can possibly be.
Right right I mean if the popular vote is close.
It's very hard to imagine either one of them getting to 300 and Electoral College I mean.
-- -- if there's a tide of -- of five or six or seven point margin as we -- on -- 2008 and 2010.
Then you have a kind of landslide.
In one direction that if we're gonna have a very tight.
Popular vote tonight it's hard to see that all of the states will go on one direction they'll split a lot of they'll split the swing states and so I think.
Whoever wins Electoral College I believe we'll be met -- I believe it will be a very close outcome on the Electoral College.
The issues as we look at some of the exit polling the early exit poll.
-- it's clear that we in the country is absolutely divided.
On the issue of whether were on the -- right track or the wrong track.
What do you make of there's there each of these polls reflect what we've seen in previous -- what we've known for for years now.
This country is split down the middle on issues that seems so.
Utterly -- clear but divisive and divisive by that I mean right down the -- Well I think presence gone out try to basically protect pretend that that the economy's getting better when there's no signs of -- that really is.
And I think a certain extent Romney has offered his solutions which is own experiences president didn't have.
I think the critical thing here is that people today I think want to change.
They thought they were getting change for years ago -- -- change they don't -- getting any better in the next four years I think that -- try something different you know and I think at this point in time that's -- -- -- him you know.
Is that Rollins -- many years ago when it comes to -- have to watch the trends that just the final number.
And clearly if you look at the right track wrong track more and more Americans believe that we're moving in the right direction that -- is very defined trend in this election.
I think one thing we should keep an eye on.
-- hear a lot of talk about independent voters but I think we should be focusing on moderate voters the -- sense recruit you know -- to find those actually if you research center did.
And in their survey they found that President Obama -- holding a strong lead -- moderate voters primarily because Mitt Romney had paid a very dear price playing to that extreme right -- to get the nomination.
The extreme right wing I had to bring -- side of it.
Up eventually you know that Lou I think -- -- there really extreme and radical element in this race has been of the Obama record.
I mean what is the debt the deficit unemployment issues.
All of all of these things before in the -- policy weaknesses this is the radical in the race and so -- if this -- a drug trial that.
A pharmaceutical company would doing they would say sorry it didn't work you know we have to -- the trial because of the -- that people taking placebos got better faster.
That's what I think the country's gonna vote for change and president the last right.
It made no case whatsoever to -- four more years he think he keeps saying things gonna get better give me four more years any more time there's FC knows new solutions is often on the table.
And the people -- -- and saw that I think that's why this campaign and close and I think Romney's move to the -- here.
As we sit here discussing this this is -- this is an election that right now with markets divided right down the senators even as it could possibly be.
Gentlemen thank you very much -- event here Michael -- thing.
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