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Wild -- us with the election just over two weeks away we begin a new series recall debate that each day we'll take on a different issue that matters.
Today we start with energy a topic that's near dear to my heart but also hits jobs the economy and it -- and and joining us now our -- -- Manhattan institute and Dan -- of the Center for American Progress.
Think guys thanks for joining us on is very important topics we -- the election.
I'm gonna start you first Roberts -- -- United States get energy independence for oil.
Everybody seems to want to -- nobody knows how to do it.
-- it's a it's a good question it's also addressing what is the single most hackneyed phrase.
In American politics every president since Richard Nixon has talked about energy independence my third book gusher of lies address the myth of energy independence what.
Why would the United States want to be independent of the -- single biggest market.
We're the world's biggest energy producer biggest energy consumer we're we're exporting on the order of three million barrels of refined oil products today.
Why would we -- -- be independent of this marketplace it's it's handy political rhetoric but it ultimately in my view it means absolutely nothing.
-- let's go to Dan on this now I mean Dan we've we've heard over the past couple presidential debates.
Governor Romney supports more drilling he supports -- approval of the Keystone Pipeline.
Things that seem like very logical answers to our energy dependence problem in this country do you agree with with the governor's.
Energy but for proposal.
Well for senator thanks for having me no I don't you know we all share certain values like reducing our dependence on foreign oil saving money at the pump.
And protecting our children and parents.
Governors Romney's plan will do none of those things.
Meanwhile president Obama's all the above strategy is actually accomplishing those goals are oil imports are the lowest they've been since President Clinton.
We're on the road to doubling the distance the car can go on a gallon of gasoline and we're investing in clean alternative energy technologies as well.
Governor Romney on the other hand would just go back to where we let the big oil companies dictate our.
Energy policy and in addition he would double the amount of special tax breaks the five largest oil companies get.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I I said that our US imports are down.
Still the lowest level that they've been sitting right President Clinton.
And an a lot of that is because we're not requiring that much energy because we -- using -- in this current economic environment.
But also the the president identified the fact that -- production.
Is at a fifteen year high in this country that's obviously good news however Mitt Romney pointed out that's not because of anything that the administration is done.
That's because -- private business and drilling Romney's insisting that oil drilling permits are down 35%.
Over the course of this administration over the course of the past four years -- arguing that -- actually stripping private enterprise the ability to drill more in this country -- Well first of all governor Romney again misled when he said that in fact.
Under this last three years of George W.
Bush -- Energy Department heard reports they've produced one point eight.
Billion barrels of oil from public lands and waters under president Obama's first three years.
Two billion barrels about 10% more oil has been produced.
From public lands and waters under President Obama than the last two years of bush what matters isn't permits what matters is production -- secondly.
Let's go ahead go ahead.
I wanna get how last word to Robert on that said Roger don't really -- I think it's gender -- -- -- go ahead.
I -- like I just the regarding.
All the above let's look at all the about it's not all the above at all in fact it's a lot of none of the below.
Look at president Obama's record on coal he attacked the -- governor Romney on Tuesday night and I think in very bad faith the EPA under President Obama has proposed rule that would prohibit.
The construction of new coal fired power plants in the United States I don't see how that's all be about.
All the about electric vehicles -- -- the Congressional Budget Office just released a report that estimated the cost to taxpayers of of the Obama administration supports.
For failed -- and for failed electric vehicle technologies.
On the order seven and a half billion dollars a year -- over 40000 dollars -- of subsidy that her electric vehicle sold this doesn't work.
Yeah guys -- is strong healthy debate I wish -- could continue it we are gonna have more of these Robert Bryce Dan Weiss.
Thank you so much for joining us on a very and they -- your especially after the.