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Both Candidates Deserve to Lose?
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Forbes opinions editor John Tamny gives his outlook for the election and the foreign policy debate.
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- Date Oct 19, 2012
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Forbes opinions editor John Tamny gives his outlook for the election and the foreign policy debate.
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Numbers now in this latest Gallup poll it's been getting a lot of attention because it shows governor Mitt Romney with the seven percentage point lead over President Obama 5245.
Among.
Likely voters now our next guest -- first -- -- -- -- thanks.
That both of these candidates deserve to lose and -- compared watching their debates to watching a beginners tennis match were both players can't get the ball over the net.
Sent kind of a unique point of view there from -- happening deepen its editor of Forbes is with us from DC I hate to break -- -- -- one of them probably will win though you know.
How I think so and and and I think the polls reflect what was logically going to happen I mean you have to go back to 2008.
At that time the Republican brand was at an all time low Republican voters weren't happy -- McCain and many did not like Sarah Palin.
And they're up against a Barack Obama who -- messiah who could do no wrong -- despite that he only got 53% of the vote.
And -- fast forward four years the economy has failed on him he is no longer the messiah in the eyes of anyone.
For anyone to realistically say that he could come anywhere near 53% this time -- just never made sense and I think the polls are reflecting that.
And he's in big trouble I think anyone would agree if Gallup has it exactly right and and it -- plus or minus four points.
On a fifty chief 45 race but if it's 52 for Rodney.
Obviously at this and take a brain surgeon forgot that the president is in trouble if you look at the state -- And there are some polls out this morning from NBC the Wall Street Journal it cannot last night I would still a healthy Obama lead of the case update there Wisconsin -- thought Paul Ryan would help -- a lot of accorded the journal poll.
You know president's doing pretty well.
There are so what do you make of that I don't know if I would call -- -- disconnect but these differences between the national tracking polls and some of the state numbers were saying.
We yeah.
It looks like a disconnect now but I think as the election nears that's going to change I look back actually in the 1980s in California in the Tom Bradley Effect it was wildly since assuming that he was going to win the governorship there.
And then on the day of the polls just made no sense and and keep an agent came back -- and beat him pretty well.
I get the feeling we're going to see the same thing here.
The electorate usually gets these things right in the they fired the failed economic president and ultimately Obama has no record to turn to.
Depending on unemployment -- GDP growth just about everything is turning against.
So where do you think we I mean I would dig too much of the number the -- actually talk about Monday night a second but.
Where do you think -- racism -- I think that that the 538 blog at the New York Times has it to 91 Obama and electoral votes to 46 Romney for their prediction you think Romney's where he's over 300.
Electoral votes on the sixth of November.
I think I think he actually is that OK -- is.
Is once again going to move this in the other direction the electric does not -- failed president's back into the office.
It's a shame what I would say is this I think we would be looking at a landslide right now.
If Romney had a more clear message about economic growth its right -- And in the debates on Tuesday night it was very clear it's as though he's running against -- good ideas he's got a good idea for across the board tax cuts but he seems afraid to say it.
And then there are some dangerous things he said the last thing -- president wants to do -- start a trade war with China that is the path.
To a stock market crash and historically it's been a -- -- the wars the shooting kind yeah I wish he would move away from some of that stuff about getting tough on China.
-- it doesn't work the voters don't believe that these Americans always believed.
But they're good enough that they don't need help but they don't need to be protected from others it's a bad message to very ambitious come out.
That's very interesting and we're gonna talk about it specifically morally does Howard Gordon Chang on China and now I'm sure will come up on -- -- as a foreign policy debate.
Not so much maybe the domestic economy but -- John -- -- as always thank you so much for coming up.