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Unions are making -- -- They often do whether they want to hum living -- which of them live alone at least fifteen dollars an hour we don't know 3035 dollar.
Thirty bucks an hour to.
I don't know I don't know what.
Oh wouldn't that be everything you know my little -- -- I know nothing that I wanna learn.
Unions that's our show.
-- -- Less -- Chicago -- teachers union that -- the media's attention that strikes over but.
This battle for control the schools will continue on I'll keep covering.
But the basic issue of who gets to decide how to manage your workplace who has the power.
And who pays the supply -- much more than just teachers in Chicago taxpayers all unions say.
It's good for America if -- unions protect workers from arbitrary dismissals for example.
But is that true.
I say no.
Because all union agreements that make it hard to fire people and require that everyone be treated equally.
Are bad for tax payers and customers and even union workers themselves.
But this is not intuitive and I have no luck when I brought that argument there's some union workers.
It's August thousands of union members came here to Philadelphia to say.
A second bill of rights.
That included a right to a full employment a living wage and -- I had a number of arguments with on -- -- -- to eventually but let's start with just one.
Why when some workers are much more effective than others the union rules mean does slackers the real goof offs can't be fine.
Does -- -- of the young slacker gets paid what.
Not because there isn't -- black back.
Not everybody advantage.
And then you're you know we have the reason I'm bringing that person up his feet.
We have the -- every -- -- what's responsible the next person running my aunt Julia and they -- get up depending -- what happened on the afternoon.
They're all up to speed who -- true.
Well John Tillman -- the Illinois policy institute has been studying the Illinois teachers' union in other unions.
It's hard to fire teacher I assume they're all up to speed.
They're all equal John this is the great irony of the unions there's what I like to call the unions ceiling people -- fast.
People don't like that of your children as in front of in the classroom with a teacher who's below par who can't be fired.
Parents don't like that what parents would like -- -- to be able identify those teachers who are exceptional and reward them of merit pay.
But that's -- the unions want want the unions want is everybody treated the same even though we know they're different.
If there were more of -- market in education they're spending and the Chicago area thirteen foul pursued.
The best teachers might make.
300000 bucks a year the exceptional teachers who take his coming out -- poor neighborhoods in Chicago would be greatly rewarded.
The problem is -- this Chicago Teachers Union strike we just tapped as what they were fighting for is a lack of accountability a lack of measurement they don't wanna be held accountable my parents.
And the real tragedy as John is that there was no parent at the negotiating table in Chicago now.
I have to believe that most of the teachers want to do the right thing.
And you know they want more for themselves but the numbers.
Are intrastate and I'll take most of the public knows this the average wage in America is about forty pounds a year.
The Chicago teachers make how much 71000.
By the union's own numbers and the school district says 76000.
Highest in the country not including pensions not including medical which brings it up to maybe eighty yeah.
That's more -- per hour that architects nurses accountants get.
And they don't work that long.
No in fact John the thing that's amazing about Chicago is we have the shortest school day of the entire year the fewest minutes and from -- had this this graph that starts with the national average and yet they say they're overworked and child going to Chicago school K through twelve.
We get about three years less instruction -- child -- -- Houston school that's the difference that's one of the reasons that the teachers who were so well paid.
Actually performed so poorly compared -- school district only four a four out of ten kids don't graduate from Chicago high schools.
And teachers tell me you're not counting all the time I do away from school I take work hole.
And they do but the government's Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Calculated -- they still found the average public school teacher works.
Point five hours per week it's less than a forty hour week.
It's a short week and that's because the average school -- in Chicago's five hours and 45 minutes to thinking get much of a good education five hours and 45 minutes.
And Chicago of a charter schools work longer.
They take work home to undergraduate in 76%.
Compared to this general average in Chicago system of 56%.
And the charter school teachers -- I don't see them strike and another not -- -- -- 50000 kids that were in school -- try to levels they're -- -- 48000 dollars on average for charter school teacher many of the charter school teachers actually left the Chicago public school system and that higher wage to come and teach where they can actually get a -- of a -- And make a difference in kids' -- flexible and the teachers apparently under the -- system 93%.
They must be very good 93% are rated either superior or -- -- -- you know anywhere in the world where somebody out of -- hundred people you wanna pick -- 93 of them are good to excellent that's that's what I meant by the union -- everybody's saying it's a strange distortion of this idea of all people being -- being -- we know that some people are exceptional teachers.
And the amazing thing has the union does not want to identify them they wanna put him in the -- of all the people are -- import job and drag a dragging the overall performance down I think that's the real outrage.
Now Kennedy I'd like to bring you into this discussion she's the Stossel shows special correspondent there.
She also went to that big union rally in Philadelphia -- she got a more hostile reception than I did but -- Carlo before I get to that Kennedy your daughter is in public school -- -- government schools yes and Los Angeles so what what's your reaction to what John says.
Well I hear what he -- and as a parent it's really scary because.
All you want for your child is the best possible classroom experience that is the most important thing -- -- to be some level of accountability I mean as a parent.
I would love if my eight involvement helped and rating teachers you know they'd only be -- on the tax they'd only be rated on students' performance.
What metric are you possibly going to -- So these very they they're -- -- words these they are include your parents who.
We're teacher yeah both my parents were educators said various points in their careers and -- -- My -- at the same thing she knows that there.
Wonderful brilliant teachers out there -- change people's lives thing about the best teacher you had growing up and they still have an impact on you.
We wouldn't be wonderful if we could trust that our kids are going to have those experiences.
And when it's all about the unions and it's all about the stranglehold.
And it's all about the pensions and benefits.
-- it makes teachers the enemy and they shouldn't be they should be part of the thing that makes children in this country more successful we blossom on a global scale.
-- -- -- -- -- Okay.
Just about money that.
They don't think this rating system is fair that that you can get a group of kids who don't have parents who care.
And those teachers may -- struggled be brilliant but struggle harder raise their scores.
He'll be unfairly judged this is -- a really shameful things have happened in Chicago -- the unions have been blaming some of the hardships that these kids -- come -- the school system face every day.
The whole point some of those kids are difficult to -- there's no question but the whole point that we're making and frankly that the mayor was making is that.
What you want to do is identified those teachers who take those kids would those disadvantages and move them farther faster and reward them batter.
Than those teachers who can't deal with those kids and yet that is the very thing the union is trying to avoid is that kind of measurement and that kind of accountability.
You can't improve the system unless you get that.
Now let's go back to that union rally where the unions wanted a second bill of rights to protect workers and I was pleased that most of the protesters I talked to were simple.
Some -- but we could have an argument that.
Kennedy had -- different experience maybe because she had the nerve to propose a second bill of rights and employers bill of rights.
Around -- -- you don't -- -- and -- -- only found that we've crafted something to protect small business.
The right to hire and fire -- in the right to relocate my business from anywhere to deliver -- right to determine wakes up.
Kennedy spent more time at the rally -- she marched along and -- was fine until she tried to get workers to sign her petition for their employers bill of rights.
Working people don't make good offensive is right now and you want to build America.
I yeah go like I'd be delusional.
-- a fire -- that siren came from some union members whose response to Kennedy's proposal was.
Are you -- you can't.
So what was that about they -- you stated what you heard they didn't want to hear people.
-- -- -- like the question.
Now and then a lot of -- bosses they didn't want union members to think for themselves they didn't want them to express their opinions -- -- Some from the media and they don't really upset that someone from Fox Business -- there is showing what was going on the rally and you know me.
And they were until you raise the concept of an employer having some rights to.
I am sympathetic to small business founders I am my husband.
Teachers sending 36 hours a week on the job they love their passion about.
My husband is up until 2:3 in the morning and 26 he did it takes.
Globes of steel.
And and that is why I'm so sympathetic to business owners in this country in this environment -- taxes go up and.
And many -- by contrast at the rally many union workers acted as if they only -- jobs civil rights laws do say employers can't fire you because of age gender race disability.
The unions take it further and they say the employer has no right at the same.
No religious display that you have to dress professional.
Yeah well -- My way.
-- underneath it and.
No no no I'm not so the boss invests in the company and he doesn't.
Get to determine the wage and that's was that's the attitude among me.
You -- -- and finally this the idea of collective bargaining.
It's so condescending and it basically said that individuals are not able to think for themselves.
That they cannot negotiate allegedly for themselves and that -- -- insults.
Well some people.
Not wise to this and they wanna get together and bargain and that's freedom of.
Association you know -- go to a flea market on a Saturday.
That doesn't mean that you have to impose your will written large on the rest of the country because most people don't wanna be part of the union and public unions what do you like it or not are bankrupting states like California.
Can -- little.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And as a monopoly provider service they are taking control of our government the local and state level away from we the people.
And that's the thing that we have to start -- -- -- I don't see people striking outside movie theaters or supermarkets.
It's the monopoly.
Government area I think it really tells us who has the power in this relationship and the mayor who had a reputation for being a tough guy.
Was completely essentially rolled by the union and had to go to a court to try to get them to come back to work.
And the union had all the power all the control because they are that provider of service from a not a monopoly provider monopolies -- market which has competition once strikes -- They might almost think the only way to -- a mechanism of accountable and education for example is school choice that empowers the parents instead -- the school system.
Or the union why is that such a dirty concept -- I don't understand it's not.
We're for it on this show you thought about I don't.
Workers use your tax money to do you need to work full time.
We heard stories.
So close government employees to leave work at 3 o'clock -- Retire with a big pension age 55.
Political -- hunch is that even when government employees to work some are not working for you do you pace so.
They can work for their union.
It does happen the practice is called official time.
Because the government officially allows workers to spend time when union work some employees do it full time.
Georgia congressman Phil get angry is upset about that and he's introduced -- -- to end the practice so.
Explain what what happened.
John back in 1978.
President Jimmy Carr -- In the civil service reform act.
Allow a dog you federal law union workers to to have what's called official act which is simply means it.
The union can designate.
One of -- people.
Thought to represented the big group of employees.
In a federal agency like the apartment offense.
-- in the biggest offender.
Thought to represent that group all day long and get paid their full salary for their expertise.
Within the department of defense and then not do anything we're just sitting there at -- -- -- procurement or whatever he might be doing at the department he's just doing doing what.
It's doing negotiating contracts well and a collective bargaining mediation arbitration.
-- talking about well how sharpen the pencils need to be.
-- the size of the races aside good number of paper clips -- you're we have no evidence that that's I mean they have these work rules but -- well -- and well in the reports that are -- -- voluntary basis -- -- of the Office of Personnel Management says -- each agency we want you to report every year.
How much time with Stan how much official I -- -- in the in the total amount of money that was exhausted.
Like in -- -- and dog to what 2000 NTN it was a 130.
Million dollars over can you appear to attack and the total amount of wasted money that we the -- are spending so these unions can.
Consider around on on behalf of their own group.
And and make sure money for the -- and -- negotiating for.
More money more of more pension more health care -- bill just simply says that.
We don't take away there are right to collective bargaining.
And and they can negotiate all -- long but do it on the unions that I am not on my dad.
Not on the -- The president of the American Federation of Government Employees John game says.
This official time -- brings gains in quality productivity.
Productivity and efficiency year after year.
It gives agencies and their employees that means to expeditiously.
Utilize government input into mission related challenge system the -- this is.
How they talk in government as well as to bring closure to conflicts that arise.
Well -- -- and in as you say is government speak and they're trying to justify.
But you've got these saw those two groups -- labor and management.
Pretty much -- negotiating for each other and we the taxpayer the ones have softened because of that.
One employee at the FAA gets 284000.
Dollars a year and works.
Official time meaning union -- and they're not doing any thing but sitting around.
Trying to decide what up piped in music should be played.
Welcome employing the idea that you can say you know is that true that you make stuff up here no I'm not make it -- be -- out have we route where every source is we'll look into it very carefully.
-- -- -- -- -- Yeah.
Okay and this is not just a federal issue by the way states and cities have where there are unions they have similar rules in in Phoenix for example say it's not that their biggest city.
But six police officers there do nothing but union work and we know we looked at what Governor Walker in Wisconsin what Governor Christie.
-- in New Jersey.
-- -- -- -- He was my former colleague in congress government Louis -- to no end in Puerto Rico.
Has done in regard to rein in this so we're addressing the problem of the state level.
We have not done any thing yet at the federal level -- that's what my bill is all about congressman -- Thank you very much coming up every election year.
-- -- You bet money doesn't that make you use the real losses.
When we return.
How government unions can't control America and robbed you blind.
And -- that union rally in Philadelphia workers told me that unions should have.
But I say they have plenty already.
Elizabeth and Mallory factor just wrote a book with an ominous title.
Shadow bosses government unions the sometimes -- control America and robbed taxpayers.
Elizabeth they control America they say were powerless.
Now they do.
They really do control America they're in government.
They're in our military.
There in our national security sites.
There in our support our sector there are now small where people have a right to choose yes or no who.
Increasingly the industries that are not unionized grew in the union share shrink but in government it's bigger than ever.
Yeah because of course -- unionized shops in the private sector go out of business but the government never goes out of business.
And now 41%.
Of government employees all across our nation are unionize and this is having a -- big effect in fact we think.
We think government employee unions are fueling.
Big government and government growth and that's what our big takeaways.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Explain how they -- -- they want bigger government because then they get so it's really easy it's one of the greatest scams being perpetrated on the American public.
Money goes from.
To the unions to the politicians who -- bought and paid for back to the unions.
And that it is it is an amazing scam.
And in the case of the leaders of the unions you say they are the true 1%.
Of course I mean will they get a lot of money to Occupy Wall Street.
You don't you know who still would block to -- wall fisherman occupying their -- she headquarters these are people who make.
-- half a million dollars a year one of them 325000.
In eighteen months.
I'm private planes.
I mean is astounding that they make about ten times what the rank and file union members -- talk about income inequality.
And you mentioned the -- -- offices that they really are elegant -- -- and then -- the teacher's union office side I tried to go again.
To take pictures recently and but I'll do that is on.
Give -- explanation of that on another show but those places are really beautiful.
That the union support some shadowy cause it's oh they sure do.
From the media matters mean I don't know if you all know would media matters is what I know because -- this is media or review group but.
It dedicates itself to killing off fox so that's right they've come after -- 100000.
NEA National Education Association with the teacher's union teachers.
Right to teaches union that but -- rank and file members don't know that.
But also asks me American federation of state -- employees gave money.
The AF of LCI OC IO gave them money but you know what the -- classified -- Public relations.
Right well this it's public relations side -- their side and media matters and the Democrats say.
More money free unit -- noble but the members don't know this the members never get a chance to know how this money's being spent.
-- is classified as public relations.
It just goes into administration and overhead.
And the members seem happy when I go to union rallies from her own -- well -- I would disagree with the and that when they have an opportunity to have their job without having to be.
Part of the union.
They vote pretty quickly to not in Wisconsin when they weren't forced to pay tribute or to be a member of the union to keep their job -- left like that.
Yeah that's important to give all of those rank and file union members -- real voice and a vote.
Two unions are not pro worker.
They're pro shadow bosses.
How Elizabeth you've got my attention when you talked about the military I assume the military is an exception.
A third of the military our civilian employees and of those 60% are are ready -- -- that means that you have unions on military bases.
Filing grievances and telling people how they can use these civilian employees in fact we found agreements that was hilarious.
Where the union has filed a grievance on a military base.
When the price of Soto went from fifty cents to 55 cents this constant filing of grievances makes it tough to run an enterprise prayer in the pulled jag corps had to fight patent imagine how much taxpayer dollars went to just -- that one grief and sent by their.
-- security you mean Border Patrol.
Feeling not -- the emergency management agency immigration and even NASA scientists.
That's right even the peace -- just looking at Homeland Security.
We -- we found 62 people getting paid to do Homeland Security work.
And you know what they're doing full time -- just union work.
This is Homeland Security Homeland Security is 40% unionized.
Well I'm depressed pattern Ohio.
A couple writing a book together and still sitting next to each other Mallory and Elizabeth after coming up.
And more when you.
Our coming -- Tuesday stood up.
-- If -- I bet I negotiate with my boss over my salary and pension and the boss says yes or no.
Government workers do that -- But -- negotiation is a little different because their boss doesn't really pay the -- their boss is a politician.
Who is likely to be long gone by the -- say the bill for retirees medical care comes -- The result is that politicians make so many promises to government workers and as a result.
Cities and some states are trillions of dollars in the red.
So where will tomorrow's politicians get the money to pay them would pay what they promise well they'll hit you taxpayers raise your taxes.
And they'll probably stiff some workers they'll say oops sorry no more money left to pay for.
For years you have to pay -- retirement or health care.
The my favorite expert on the subject to Steve maligned of the Manhattan institute.
And he points out the two states have made Smart changes to prevent this pension bomb from going off once you -- on their governor is Gary Hart by Gary Herbert so.
Governor Herbert what do would you -- in -- Well number one we try to think long term and you talk it's not just short term it is long term for a lot of reasons so we moved from a defined.
Benefit to defined contribution.
-- my god please let you know that that don't say don't scores aren't.
Steve uses them all the time and they are very important but I know lol you right now when you hear defined benefit.
Years switching off and so.
And we let's try to explain what you're talking about and maybe that will make it more interesting itself.
Defined benefit means you politicians.
Define a benefit and you say.
This is what we're gonna pay you in the future could retirement income you're gonna receive some kind of insurance policy some kind of guaranteed.
Benefits you received after you retire until you die we promise -- As opposed to what Steve you encourage states to switch to is.
Well he's he is a term defined contribution it's also -- would -- the 401K.
OK right that's where you define what the money is that you're gonna give the employee -- In an account so that they can have it towards their retirement and they build that up over the -- but once you make that contribution the taxpayer's liability ends at that point.
It's not on ending.
And -- is the worker it's not like Social Security or Medicare which is also promised this is what this is real money this is.
Money is taken out there is actual money from the fifteen -- Eric absolutely.
And it's so it's not subject to the whims of politicians while.
The other one is -- just a promise.
Hot air I would say and there's a good chance overtime that it that there won't be the money.
To pay and although I would say that the hot air is actually kind of risk for taxpayers.
Because in many states -- a good -- to say this is guaranteed so if you come up short over twenty or thirty years.
It's the taxpayer -- has to make up and were already seeing.
Tax rates go up around the country at least in part because of this obligation the politicians and not follow through on.
But Rhode Island which had six billion in unfunded liabilities may change but the three billion.
Utah also released Tuesday -- and workers get mad workers not like it you know -- In the beginning there is concern about what am -- losing.
And of course we explained to them unless we make some changes.
This system will in -- go bankrupt.
And those who are entitled to the benefit will not receive it the young people coming in the new employees little -- could bankrupt the system.
So we end up having a two track system that kind.
Keep our promises of the first ones that have a defined benefit.
They give it choice to those who -- coming on board to get -- back acts rarely sound.
And it utes are your pension system was already in such good shape.
Fit all you had to do was make it a new deal for the new employees he didn't have to mess with the old plan that's right we were about a 100%.
Before and a Great Recession hurt.
And you know you invest in funds -- -- -- and then diminish this was such a great.
Diminishment of overall money we lost about six billion dollars.
We had to take corrective action to make sure that this state actuary sound and fact did not in -- become a boondoggle for the taxpayer.
-- Steve but -- -- the exception.
Absolutely public employees tend to resist.
Any kind of change.
They do so in part because they're union leaders tell them.
That 401K style plans don't work.
Even though for instance I'll give -- example among teachers in America.
50% of teachers in America leave the percent profession within five years if they got a -- -- 401K they would take all their money with them.
In a defined benefit plan to get very little if you leave and switching go to another job so basically this kind of plan is perfect for people who are gonna stay in government for their entire lives -- Exactly right.
But it's awful for the taxpayer in the unfunded liability the moment is four and a half trillion dollars.
Up from two trillion just in 2008.
Yes it keeps rising here's the thing.
This in this is the irony forty states say in the last two years they have done -- to their pension system.
Yet the liabilities the debts that's what they are the debt keeps growing because most of the reform is extremely superficial unions screen.
When -- -- they fight this tooth and tell us that this is this is.
I don't think they would like to have their own title money don't hold on to well I certainly would like to have my own pot of money a -- and on the other hand.
If I were a worker in California and I had a system where after thirty years I can retire with 90%.
-- my salary which is what you get in California if you're a public safety worker.
Boy I tell you -- -- are true this true.
Part private sector unions.
Don't get away with -- stated they can't have unfunded liabilities what I what what's the difference -- the private sector in the government competition.
The thing is that it that that first of all they brought their war are.
A lot of the about 50% of private workers at one point had defined benefit.
Started going bankrupt as a result of this -- had to -- cost -- as a result list so they switched.
And unions tried to resist.
But in the competitive marketplace.
Where you're in the private sector you can go out of business the difference is that government doesn't go out of business instead the tax -- is the backstop all of this and that's part of the problem.
Fit FDR said about.
Organizing all government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining cannot be transplanted into the public servants.
The very nature and purpose of government makes it impossible.
This is FD Iraq.
I'm great conservative -- great concern that they don't yet today it seems conservative today.
It's conservative today.
You get political points for having done this now or are absolutely.
We get political points to -- good principles.
And public understands that the public does understand of and we are one of only seven states and he's got a rating from New York.
Here just last Friday.
That -- -- bond rating from all three ready names is a triple triple one of only seven states and it makes a difference when we go forward.
-- -- businesses and people look for certainty.
And predictability going forward toward anyone have a bill -- another Israel money that they want and all the -- balanced her budgets the employees one and although there's something real.
And -- one of the selling points to change our process was to say look flat.
You can take money with you when you leave whenever you leave you don't have to just get to tell you die it can be passed on your children in Chicago Rahm Emanuel said if we don't fix our pension system.
You won't get people to move here you won't get businesses to move here because they know that what they're doing is they're buying into this enormous debt.
So I think what the governor says about the competitiveness of states in terms of their business competitive this we're going to see pension liabilities as a part of that in the coming years.
Thank you Stephen -- -- and governor Herbert.
Coming off the audience gets away again and I'll tell you the truth.
About how workers got the eight hour day.
Back now -- Questions comments for my guests Elizabeth and Mallory factor co authors of the new book shadow bosses.
Steve maligned over the Manhattan institute and John Tillman of the Illinois policy institute so.
First from FaceBook from my FaceBook page in wells asks.
Aren't unions violating free speech rights of their members.
That don't want to fund say democratic politicians but they're forced to join the union not.
-- this refers to states that are not right to work states either forced union states it's about twenty of them.
The answer is yes it is I believe is a violation of first amendment rights we all believe in first amendment rights.
Don't we we all do right.
-- That we do have the right to speak but only one group has the absolute right to be listened to.
And that's government employee unions.
Nobody has the right to -- -- listen to.
Don't have the right to speak except for government employee you know or what do you mean they -- -- right to be listened to -- when they're negotiating a contract you can walk away from with a from the table the politicians have to listen to old.
That is absolutely part of the law.
Yes sir whose first go ahead.
My question is about the cycle of money from from the unions to their campaigns then back to the unions again.
What's the most effective and easiest way to break this cycle so we don't have the -- buses anymore.
Steve -- well choice first the ball it goes back to caller's answer and that is.
In places where you are not allowed to use our members' money for politics unless members agree to hit.
What happens is -- political spending by unions drops significantly.
Because when you ask members there's a growing discontent among union members with the way their money is being used.
Not necessarily for organizing or -- reason represent them but for little political purposes much of which doesn't really have anything to do.
With representing workers and -- the.
Estimate is that only.
-- somewhere between the third and 55 for 60% of the union -- actually represents workers the rest goes to politics and it doesn't necessarily.
Another solution would be to go back to the day of that great conservative FDR.
Instead he can't have government union movement because they're negotiating their of their own bosses that's not gonna work.
He was right and we're stuck with what we've gotten -- yet has.
Besides exercising our right to vote what else can we do is concerned Americans to push back against all of this corruption.
And incorrect spending of our tax dollars.
You really have to push back at the local government level that the unions are -- on every field of play they are putting people out for dog catcher.
-- county supervisor.
Obviously school boards they are playing in every field of play and the only way we're gonna wrest control of our government which is our government we the people.
From the union to -- -- by you getting involved that -- day and grinding it out what they're confident of is that we won't engage and we have to engage we want our freedom.
Thank you all ought to wish for your bad news since some -- that I may -- My take on unions -- what they really.
Due to work.
-- member of the fuss that was made wooden cabinet secretary Kathleen severely is pushed for her -- -- election.
Had a Human Rights Campaign event she incurred sure audience to make sure Obama continues to be president.
Pundits said -- should be fired because the law does say government employees may not use their official jobs to try to affect -- election.
The White House said it was just a mistake and since she reimburse the -- monitor travel expenses she won't be punished.
But some conservatives were furious still are they want her fire.
Political appointees do this kind of -- all the time.
Catherine Kathleen Sebelius is -- hard core big government democratic course she promotes Obama.
What galls me is what's the legal.
The Wall Street Journal reports that there's newcomer among the biggest union givers to -- the air traffic controllers.
How it turns out they started giving more money after President Obama gave them a contract with rich pay increases more than other government workers got.
I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
The union says they support the president not because he gave the big -- no because his administration's strong commitment to air safety.
Apparently Mitt -- is not committed to -- it.
It's so sleazy.
Why isn't this illegal bribery payola.
Just seems strong unions -- to elect politicians.
Who pay them back with you more money why isn't that -- -- But that's perfectly legal.
One final point.
At that union demonstrations Philadelphia something I heard again and again is that unions -- -- the middle class.
It was unions for example that gave workers an eight hour work day.
And time off and higher pay.
Like had to -- their work week at a weekend.
Thank you union members look at union built this country -- work became firmware on the labor unions like the nineteen.
Actually no that's not true in 1914.
Henry Ford doubled wages and created an eight hour work day.
To compete GM and Chrysler then followed suit.
That was thirty years before the UAW even existed.
They did it because they wanted to compete for good workers.
I think that we -- -- an eight -- day if there -- No I'm sorry wrong.
Now she's wrong.
They believe Billy's union myths workers' lives -- improved in America because of free enterprise.
Not because of union rules.
Well union contracts help workers for a while but then they hurt.
Hurt even union workers because their cost for the rigid -- slow growth.
And growth is what's best for workers.
Again Henry Ford doubled wages.
And then he hired more people all with no we union.
Years later in the UAW appears unionize is the workers -- -- benefits for awhile but then growth slowed and stopped.
That hurt the workers.
With much less -- Toyota.
Over the past twenty years Toyota created 151000.
Jobs out of Japan in America.
Over that same period GM lost 400000.
How is that good for workers.
And workers should have a right to unionize but they should know the down -- It's not just the cost of their union dues since the opportunities.
Lost in union shops because.
Union rules limit entrepreneurs ability to change to adapt and grow.
It's that freed up free enterprise.
That gives America and -- the power to prosper.
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