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Cool are you voting for in November.
Obama and Romney.
Place where our choices just limited test these two men I've heard enough from the likes of you.
Tonight we're gonna hear from the other presidential candidate.
Like Virgil boot of the constitution part does he have good -- if we go back Obama's high.
We are going to be so far -- the road to socialism.
We might never a problem this candidate says we shouldn't go down that road he's this socialist candidate.
Please give me a -- sport Alexander.
I'm not mistakes.
And then there's Gary Johnson the libertarian candidate who says he's.
Abolish the IRS and restore our constitutional rights.
Wars and -- this federal attention on rebuilding better America.
Boy -- these men -- the Green Party candidate be better than Romney or Obama.
Party -- that's our show.
However like -- sporting event.
Two teams competing against each other.
There's lots of coverage but what most Americans don't hear about is that there are other people in the race.
In a few minutes we'll meet three of them hear their ideas that they have better ideas than Obama and Romney.
I think -- in some cases though I think some of them worse ideas.
First why should we even care about third party candidates they probably won't win.
Matt Welch and Teresa a motto say we shouldn't care because.
Well I'll let them explain -- Well she's the author of declaration of independence a book that suggests independents can fix what's wrong with America.
And our -- ran two presidential campaigns for Ralph Nader and wrote grand illusion not myth of voter choice in a two party.
So a two party -- would what do you make.
That the two parties major Republican and democratic parties have stacked the deck against their party and minor party candidates independent -- others who.
Well from everything starting with the ballot access laws.
Number one problem for almost every minor party candidates are independent is how -- I get on the ballot to present.
Myself as a choice you just have to get -- -- signatures -- popular.
Thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands millions of signatures in some cases really millions -- you're running for president you might have to get two million signatures in order to protect yourself from.
All kinds of people who will try to knock you off the ballot to prevent you from being a candidate.
Lest you interrupt the predictable outcome -- Man he -- say if the system were more open America would be better off -- If nothing else that we have different ideas to be discussed on -- national stage.
And two parties alternate between.
Having power they basically govern in pretty similar ways and so out truck ideas I'm pronouncing -- -- Like guy ending the drug war for example or opposing bailouts for example ideas that are actually not discussed very often on the presidential stage would be discussed in a way that would stimulate -- a lot more healthy have a discourse must they must not get discussed because most Americans don't like these and these untrue bailouts have been consistently unpopular from both sides of the -- for a long time now there's certain things that politicians do once they are in power and they try very hard.
Not to have to face American public opinion on them.
And having third parties and having the discussions that come from that is a way to force those kind of conversations and hopefully break the logjam terrible policy program.
Now if you lean libertarian some people say -- -- -- Johnson will take will take away.
Romney's chances make America worse off you ran Ralph Nader's campaign and people accuse you know.
Of electing bush because Nader hurt the Democrat.
Yes they did feel bad no not at all that's the job.
Third party candidates independent candidates to put at.
Other issues -- -- issues like I have removal from Afghanistan the Afghanistan war raising may -- the minimum wage so that it's adjusted for inflation.
Being able to go after corporate crime fraud and abuse these are issues that should be part of the political discourse but often are not.
When you look at all of the hurdles to third party candidates have to go through.
Just to be able to what is what beside the signatures.
Well besides the signatures.
Lack of media coverage so -- for you for having this show the inability to get into the cartel of the Commission on Presidential Debates that keeps.
Independents and third parties since Ross Perot Ralph from presenting their ideas.
Debate and rules say you have to have 15% of the popular vote.
Seems reasonable and it seemed you were a two party country.
But these guys debate we don't want these fringe what we saw what happened in the Republican primary when you add ten candidates -- got a feel for.
An argument Ralph Nader got two point 7% about in 2000.
There -- 151000 journalists who show up to everybody's the major party political conventions which by the way are subsidized by taxpayer dollars -- -- -- -- hundred million dollars piece.
So of all those 151000 journalists how many journalists were covering.
A candidate who got two point 7% of the vote and arguably tipped the election how many journalists cover them -- -- news organizations had a reporter one.
It was cold working for change dot com not have you heard of it I worked -- I was covering the campaign and a time.
On its amazing the kind of status quo existence -- the horse race bias.
That people have so yes having more.
People involved in the debate is -- -- to open that up to from beginning and it gets the political parties out of the position of controlling who gets to come and why did they get.
To control the access.
-- they don't make the debate decision there's this independent commission they don't set the rule I guess they do set the rules that repetition.
Really set their roles and they've stacked the -- so we haven't had an independent or minor party candidate in the presidential debate since prosper route.
And Alabama got a lot of outs we have a graph he got eighteen.
Point 9% of the vote here.
He ran again in 96 he got less.
-- Johnny Anderson 6% Ralph Nader less than 3%.
The -- Gerry and last election less than half of a percent.
But it's a chicken and I'm going if if there's no media -- there's no participation.
In the -- then these parties in these candidates can't.
I have attention to be able to present their ideas and talk about their platform -- -- party is not in the United States constitution.
It is not a situation where the Democrat and and Republican parties are entitled.
To the belts they have to earn their -- just like every candidate.
Including the third party.
The voting age Americans don't vote.
Right so what about those people are they being represented out there and the other thing which talked about before is that people who affiliate is independence is now the largest group of people the electorate they do not like the more than Republicans or Democrats around forty growing and growing it's around 40% of the population if you asked them.
You know which party do you feel more affinity win that they say none of the -- we don't like it so why don't these third party candidates -- we're -- -- some little way how come there's no groundswell of people voting for them Bob Barr getting.
A tiny percentage of the vote last time.
The Libertarian Party candidate I think I think -- a couple of reasons one is that people want to feel like at their vote is affecting things is understandable human.
I want to be able to affect the Supreme Court in nominating process and if I vote for -- chop house I couldn't do anything right.
On another part is that there is a structural impediments out there to having them be involved at all in India and the debate so had.
Yeah there's a great group open debates dot org is talking about hosting other debates to have everybody in the debate.
There's -- other groups are working to.
-- make sure that ballot access have been fair laws and that we take a look at some of the structural difficulties that we're talking about the electoral cup for college for one.
The way we finance campaigns right now we can't -- candidates in the entire system -- aiding and corporate cash and so we have to discuss and then the governor.
Yeah is that they get.
What's called public financing I would call it government taking money by force from people and giving it to the big candidates in in 2004.
Ralph Nader got 900000 dollars and public.
Government money I wanna give it to -- it was given the -- of course bush got 75 million and Kerry got 75 million.
Right and but there's a reason have public financing in the recent have public financing the same reason we have -- parks public schools what we have something that's a common good.
And not a product or service for purchase.
We should be thinking about how do we make this common good.
Available to all so that people can participate and that you don't have to have a billionaires -- attacks in order to get a boat or get on the ballot in the united someone let you answer.
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Think about why third parties are popular which is that.
In these days people are using the two party process to shake things up to in and in ways that are interest in this is happening more now on the Republican side with the Tea Party with groups like Club for Growth of people who were primary -- Replace incumbent Republicans to try to change their behavior to make -- act more like they want to.
It's beginning to happen a little bit on the democratic side on issues like the drug war there's a representative from El Paso is gonna who's gonna.
A go to congress because he's good on the drug warning come it was back and Democrats are sick of that.
So people are finding ways to use modern technology.
And kind of swarming towards single issues to make that two major parties behave a little bit differently -- that's uninteresting.
Movement so progress thank you Matt Welch thank you Teresa -- motto.
One of the third parties that does not get much coverage as the Green Party they doing some money though enough to pay for commercials.
A Green Party president means and ends up unemployment.
To foreclosures to student debt to climate change.
And an end to corporate rule -- Stein Green Party candidate for president I'm -- -- collect.
Green Party vice presidential candidate and we are proud to approve this message.
I'd like to quiz Jill Stein about how she guaranteed jobs for every American and and climate change and so on.
Dubious claims but after agreeing to appeared Jill Stein change your mind she will not answer questions on this job.
However three other third party candidates are here all are on the ballots in some or most states we meet them next starting with.
Gary Johnson on the libertarian.
And not easy to get on the presidential ballot you -- followers an organization uniting and hundreds of thousands people to sign a petition saying.
I want this candidate on my State's ballot.
13 party candidates exceeded nearly every state and that's Gary Johnson the libertarian candidate -- Libertarian what's that mean -- it.
Libertarian to me with a broad brush stroke fiscally irresponsible Los socially accepting -- with a broad brush stroke and I think that represents.
Most of Americans.
Well -- more more liberal then Obama on several issues more conservative than Romney on several issues -- a let's learn a little bit about you you started as one person door to door handyman and grew that into a thousand employee building company.
Then decided to run for governor in New Mexico a democratic state.
In this democratic state.
Where you did weird things like -- cut spending.
-- -- I.
I may have vetoed more bills in the other 49 governors in the country that 90750.
Innings in a state -- still a lot of in a state that's two to one Democrat I should have been written out on a rail but I just think it speaks volumes of the fact that people really appreciate good stewardship of tax dollars I think I delivered on that and a big way.
Cell -- how come here only according to Zogby poll and polling at four point three.
Well the -- the issue for me is just being in the polls to begin with that would build on itself if I were just recognized for where I was -- right now nationally.
You know what the overwhelming national reaction would be who the hell is Gary Johnson and that would be a good thing.
Just the attention that goes along with that I welcome.
The light being turned on and take a look at my resume there's nothing in my -- made a suggests that I'm not gonna doggedly pursue all the things that I'm talking about.
And thanks for talking.
-- your proposal you cut a trillion in spending.
One point four trillion dollars in spending balance the federal budget now.
I think unless we do that we're gonna find ourselves in a monetary collapse.
So did do that you would trim entitlement programs people say that -- that's suicidal for a politician also.
Well it's so we have the two parties right now.
Debating over who's gonna spend more money on Medicare look we've gotta slash Medicare spending if we don't we're gonna find ourselves -- no health care whatsoever.
Medicaid same thing military spending same thing now let's start off with talking about the Big Three.
My understanding is if you merely stop the growth than we would be in much better shape that's not -- Well I am going to propose a 43% reduction in government spending 43% being the number that's we're borrowing and printing beyond what we're collecting -- believing that that's the only way we save this country cruel people would starve in the street and John this is the exact reaction that I got as governor of New Mexico having vetoed all that legislation by the -- only two of those pieces of legislation were overridden but the whole notion was people we're gonna be dead in the streets.
Kids were gonna starve all the worse things we're gonna happen none of them did and I got reelected so.
-- -- here and -- this is help.
Here for poor all.
I believe -- the time at the federal government would -- block grant -- the state of New Mexico 43% less money done away with all the strings in the mandates.
That I -- effectively overseen -- delivery of health care to the pour in New Mexico with 43% less money.
I would suggest that as a template for Medicare also health care for those over 65.
Give this up to the State's fifty laboratories of innovation and best practice.
-- suggests that that's exactly what we will have some.
Terrific best practice -- get emulated world will also have some spectacular failure.
That will get avoided but Washington top down Washington knows best that's what has us in the situation that we're in right now.
You say in the wars that means terrorists win.
Bad people will threaten us you know I'm gonna suggest that because of our military interventions we have hundreds of millions of enemies to this country that but for our military interventions we would not otherwise have.
So let's take.
Let's take military spending back to 2003 spending levels let's start out with the premise that yes we should provide ourselves -- strong national defense.
But defense here is the operative word -- not offense and not nation building.
Now we're building roads schools bridges highways and hospitals and other countries and we have those same needs here in this country.
-- take a look at one of years.
My name is Gary Johnson.
This is the United States constitution.
This is not -- this is the united states tax.
Meaning one is simple it's about equal rights for all the other is extremely complex and it's anything but equal rights for all its crony capitalism and and not -- It's the roots if you will of all evil.
Individuals groups corporations paying for loopholes both parties selling those loopholes let's eliminate the IRS that's abolishing income.
Trust the government.
You want some government libertarians want some government where will they get the money well so let's replace it with a national consumption tax in this case I'm embracing the fair tax I would love those watching to check out fair tax dot org I think that are really.
Reboots the American economy and it certainly kicks.
Crony capitalism in the rear end -- I think adopting a fair tax would issue pink slips up half of Washington lobbyists.
-- would legalize marijuana.
Legalize marijuana control it regulated -- tax that I think we're at a tipping point on this issue let's free up half half law enforcement have to courts and let's.
Let some of those 2.3 million people behind bars that are there on nonviolent victimless crime.
Out of jail.
-- -- -- No I've been -- and it's.
I think that marriage equality is a constitutionally guaranteed rights on par with civil rights of the sixties.
How right now that we've heard a little bit from you I want to let the other candidates.
Our question you know and I.
Think the audience recognizes the two gentlemen on the left there.
So let's leave the other two Virgil guru on the nomination of the constitution party.
And Stewart Alexander -- the presidential candidate of the Socialist Party USA self.
-- what should you four was asked the first question that I got a question.
Not heard enough from you two guys.
Stewart Alexander -- -- you've got a question.
Gary when -- -- are looking at the -- cuts and Medicare and also and Social Security.
And you you talk about slashing.
What type of slashing -- you actually talking about when you're talking about.
That this is going to affect.
Seniors is going to affect many people led.
Are we had we -- -- -- programs and for the time what's your would you do that well first of all who we don't need to cut Social Security Social Security is eminently salable it's a system that needs to take in more money than what it pays out so raising their retirement age changing the escalator is a little clarity.
From the wage indexing to inflation rate having an opt in opt -- opt out provision reason to a level.
Raising the age limit to what -- Make an actual -- sounds so 72 let's just say.
But the the point is is vote.
The point is is that it really is save -- -- Medicaid Medicare we don't cut these programs I think the alternative is no Medicaid and no Medicare.
If we don't cut the military the alternative is no military whatsoever I think the biggest threat to our national security.
Is the fact that we're borrowing and printing money to the tune of 43 cents out of every dollar we spend.
-- -- -- -- -- -- You said your father fact -- I wanna know what fair tax legislation to follow what is your type of fat -- -- well what -- supporting is a national consumption tax.
It ends up being cost neutral over a very short amount of time because currently embedded in all goods and services is.
Arguably 23% worth of taxes so you you believe that out to the cannot -- doesn't sell for a buck anymore.
It sells for eighty cents you'll play the 23% tax to it you end up with something that's up.
Cost neutral thank you Gary Johnson coming up -- -- hear more from the socialist candidate.
I don't like socialist.
But there's at least one thing we agree about.
That's coming up next.
We're back now with the second of our other presidential candidates Stuart Alexander he was nominated by the Socialist Party.
Thank you very much what invitation what do you stand for.
Well we believe that working people -- should be able to controlled the destinies of their communities their nation and also control.
The resources -- not our communities -- from the distribution.
-- we believe that the factories.
The businesses and those communities should belong to those people.
So the government should come in and take it away from the fat capitalists and give it to the workers know we don't come we don't believe in government should come in and taken away that -- not.
Our power wouldn't get there I don't won't -- It is very important that people have be able to have cooperatives.
And within their communities we don't have that today we have the government have.
Massive in appearance regulation on small business from the county state and also when the federal level.
And we we see that this you're against regularly and also when you look at what -- what is -- against this regulation that isn't.
We do we have an abundance of regulations on all levels of government which is -- -- -- itself as a strangle hole.
On people being able to manage their own affairs in their communities.
But we believe that people should be able to determine what the destiny.
Is for their communities how that community is developed whether it's with the schools.
Where there was fixing the highways.
Taking care of the properties that they live and people should be able to do this themselves without massive interference from government.
-- agree on that we -- world we've got to win.
You -- -- handle more this week we agree on that you want to nationalize some man and a few things -- we -- current.
You want to nationalize the banks he won a single Payer health care system you want free quality education from cradle to doctoral degree for all.
Yes indefinite extension of unemployment benefits when I what do you get some money went out.
Do you never when I went to the university of -- universities in the seventies education was free.
Many young people can understand in the six season seven -- education was free you're education was probably free.
Now all we have gotten to a point where we strapped tens of thousands of doll where you -- Tiny -- to pay for all these what college -- -- realize that big corporations and big businesses are not paying their fair share.
They're not apparent.
And I wanted to ask and I should I call you comrade.
I I you may ask and on the banner on your website says welcome content.
I've read your party's symbol as a slogan from Marx's Communist manifesto.
Workers of the world unite.
And I think an archived and I think workers of the world should unite.
Mark this week marks headed right right -- -- that right.
Partly that all of our panel why I -- try to give you a chance to pose some questions who wants to go first here.
No no not you know on the left there.
Do you governor John -- -- supports.
Living wage legislation let's say to take a living wage to ten dollars an hour and if you do.
Why not go straight to 75 dollars a now.
Well -- I believe that a living wage.
-- the party that I represent the sources party USA we have a -- fifteen goals per hour.
Personally I think fifteen dollars and hours and not enough.
If you consider most people in the communities where I live that to have -- live and just 81 bedroom apartment.
Well caution over a thousand -- amongst us persons make in ten dollars and hour.
Essentially they're making around 161656.
Tina Knowles a -- once you.
Tactic to tax out of that.
They are essentially have 14100 dollars may be less than that -- to -- on.
A person cannot live on 14100 dollars -- net income in any community saw his allies went up so why is so -- one -- 75 dollars an hour when not 200 dollars and down there needs to be a balance taking care of the needs of the individual.
And also taken care that the needs the economic the economic needs of our communities the congressman go do you have a question.
If you were president it up.
Alexander would you.
Signed legislation repealing obamacare after it came to your desk I believe that -- Obama care person why I do believe -- needs to be -- But I believe that we need to.
Where we can maintain certain provisions.
-- needs to be repealed first certain revision provisions that are in Obama care.
But also to make certain that we incorporate single -- within that formula.
More government -- -- we'll get to that.
Later we're on our ultimate all the little that -- story Alexander is a Socialist Party thank you up next feet.
Third party candidate who'll according to -- political specialists.
Made by winning votes in Virginia -- keep Mitt Romney from defeating Barack Obama.
Official candidate represents the constitution.
Constitution party sounds good to me -- often carry one of these around this is a copy of the constitution and the declaration of independence.
I like how short this it simple.
It mostly tens -- tells mostly tells power -- politicians what they may not do.
And so I like the constitution's party's slow but smaller.
Less costly government.
And this year -- presidential candidate is Virgil.
Who your platform immediately balance the budget nearly every department and agency should face significant -- and some eliminated entirely like.
The Department of Education.
Okay I'll talk.
National public broadcasting national and -- -- off.
And you know finding.
-- presidential campaigns are any campaigns I'm not taking taxpayer dollars -- a matching contributions.
Let them pay from our own conventions -- -- having tax dollars putting into it.
He would extricate the military from unnecessary foreign wars.
We were not -- involved in a farm law unless we wouldn't go to Iran we wouldn't be an Afghanistan -- following the constitution.
Congress declared war.
We shouldn't be in Afghanistan even though they supported people who attacked us on September 11.
Not unless congress we should have that debate in congress because that's what the -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I get that were in sync on that but then your platform goes on use troops fences other measures to stop the invasion from Mexico.
Reduce illegal immigration.
-- English as the official language that that's here.
The defense of the United States ES.
And we have a huge invasion in our country.
From mostly sides of the more we need to stop all illegal immigration because we need to balance a budget not.
Illegal immigration cost this country.
Billions and billions of dollar legal immigration in the form of green cards now I'm not talking about a student visa.
Arafat fiancee visa which is a green card but.
I am going yet complete moratorium.
On green card admissions into this country which means you can go in Iran get a job in abide any state.
Until unemployment is on the -- percent right -- eight point 1%.
We need to have jobs in the United States -- the United States citizens.
Also -- here but I agree with this one -- term limits to members well -- that let me tell you -- Term limits walk almost in the constitution.
But when Jefferson and Madison.
And those that were riding yet back and forth on the Federalist papers they -- to -- term limits and they decided not to adopt term limits flock.
Because they said most people were -- go -- -- -- a few terms then they'll go back to their farms they'll go back to the jobs ahead.
They'll go back to -- lot but what we've got meant congress you've got some and I was -- -- part of the problem.
You've got so many that are -- so much I'm back the next election they're not gonna take the hard choices they've gotten a Johnson and myself enough.
And and and maybe -- Alexander would do and balance a budget not.
You've got to balance a budget we are headed for disaster if you don't balance a budget.
And that makes tough choices you gonna make you're gonna make a lot in the audience mad when you balance a budget.
But if we don't do that than -- Which is it sixteen -- is going to continue to sell off.
And if we had term limits.
I think many members of the house -- the senate would go more readily site while I'm not aware of -- much of back to next on rice I'm gonna worry more about the next generation.
Other candidates do you have a question for mr.
-- -- -- -- on the left are if you don't get enough air time you wanna take this show tell.
Alexander going I have one question in regards to when you -- -- -- talking about the constitution and you look at the national defense authorization.
That doesn't fit in the constitute I'm not mr.
Alexander parts in the national defense authorization act down.
Yemen Mountain View unconstitutional.
Searches and -- users and not on constitute what -- what is this act and national defense authorization act.
-- vast authorization.
For funding troops authorization -- that.
Army navy and it also provides authorization and that's the part mr.
Alexander's talking -- -- Well what I believe are unconstitutional.
-- the Arctic to the president to it -- exterminate somewhat.
The governor Johnson.
Congressman your position on the war on drugs.
Act out and do not support -- lasting.
Probably drugs we -- -- you're not gonna fat in here.
And dealing with -- marijuana.
Any -- that types of drugs because of -- follows.
I've probably never get a little about them and nobody that you got down right Jefferson say that it is best times were spent out on the veranda smoke and we didn't he say yeah.
Not -- I'm from Virginia and I don't remember Thomas Dallas and -- I have now.
Have fun and I am on the veranda coming -- I thought about what the audience gets to grill the candidates and so do you via FaceBook.
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson.
Socialist presidential candidates Stuart Alexander and constitution party candidate Virgil -- first for my FaceBook page.
Susie I don't believe this -- really says it's for Gary Johnson.
What -- you do about the Federal Student Aid program -- caught off those who were already.
80000 dollars in -- -- I -- is I guess you know I wouldn't but I think one of the unintended consequence of government policy is the fact that because the government guarantees student loans that's the reason -- college tuition is so high.
If students actually made a decision based on how whether or not they were going to college based on whether or not they could afford it or not I think fewer kids would go to college because it would be so on affordable and colleges the university was slashed their prices.
Because there wouldn't be the demand yes.
-- -- you said that.
You stated that.
You -- cut government spending and you would balance the budget but you also said that you wanted an absolute moratorium on.
Illegal immigration and particularly from Mexico and wondering how you can justify it at great expense that -- her.
Not to mention the fact I'm from California and a lot of our labor is illegal workers or.
-- -- Oh congress yeah yeah yeah Lagos takes.
Take jobs from US citizens.
Jobs in this country should go first US citizen illegal immigration costs this country billions of dollars they come in have a Kiet.
Kids automatic citizen.
-- Public cashing.
Food stamps public and lost a little work they don't take handouts.
And no -- job gets it.
And now most of the -- Lagos a lot problem.
Do get public assistance but cost.
Before you should get public assistance -- should -- to produce a birth certificate and naturalization certificate.
Our legal pipe -- yes yes and governor Johnson what's your view on the government's role in environmental protection.
And I think government has a role to protect us -- against individuals groups corporations that would do us harm.
I'm promising to submit a balanced budget to congress in the year 2013.
That would be a 43% reduction.
In the Environmental Protection Agency but I think the Environmental Protection Agency comes and in the basic heading of protecting us against polluters.
Based on my experience as governor of New Mexico guess what there are polluters and but for the government who shuts them down.
I understand individuals can do that but I think in many cases individuals don't have the deep pockets.
That polluting corporations do.
From my FaceBook page for Stewart Alexander Joyce Taylor asks.
Discuss a successful.
That hasn't collapsed unto itself socialist society.
When we look at.
The roots of this country -- let's start from this thirties when this country was coming out of the depression.
We implemented many socialist programs to be able to bring us out of that deep depression subsequently.
We had -- we.
Even today we enjoy the benefits of the post office who they had the infrastructure.
Were we build highways across the nation all those resources are there any -- -- society women -- hasn't been horrible for a Federal Reserve System was established that was a socialist program.
Subsequently we see over the years even Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
So if you look at models for socialism.
This is a good model right here unfortunately.
Many of those.
Programs that we have eventually are either privatize.
Or if they become a debt burden burden.
Then this turn back over for bail -- -- you're not answering her question is there any socialist society that hasn't this this is -- -- -- socialist society right here in the US.
Okay -- on that note thank you Gary Johnson Stewart Alexander Virgil -- coming up.
I'll tell you about my favorite third car.
The law -- -- that's perpetuated is that we have to have a two party system we're gonna have problems politically.
Until we get some sort of third party movement a third party guy.
-- crash ended two party system.
-- -- always talking about the candidate who makes the most sense to me.
Most of the others including Romney and Obama make -- many promises.
They sound almost as silly as the Green Party candidate.
Green means a guaranteed job for every American.
The new economy fuels and renewable energy no more student debt.
Free stuff for everybody.
Let's get real all the candidates think of themselves as freedom lovers.
But they are not.
I'm a libertarian in part because I see the false choice offered by political left and right either government control of the economy.
Or government control of our personal lives.
Democrats think it's government's job to -- coming equality.
Republicans think government should police your bedroom.
I say we're best off if neither side tries to do those things.
Let them -- -- moral behavior let them give to charities but leave government force out of it.
And government is force.
And that's why -- like Gary Johnson.
After four years you decide -- or.
Control and higher taxes or what you really want you can always vote in national office again.
-- -- I would be good what -- all argue about things like drug use and poverty but what -- would be co worst by government.
Beyond the small amount needed to fund a limited government that keeps us safe.
Do not -- government forcibly take other people's money.
Wouldn't doubt leave -- out -- rather leave it to the market and other voluntary.
But sadly that's not how most people think most people think problems are things that are solved by -- -- They assume it's just the laziness or stupidity of the other -- politicians that prevent government from solving our problems.
But government rarely solves problems government is inefficient.
And again government is force.
That's why it's better if government doesn't try to address most of life's problems.
There's nothing government can do that we cannot do better as free individuals and groups of individuals working together voluntarily.
Without big government are possibilities are limitless.
That's our show thanks for watching good.
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