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Guess dominates those circles of course percent -- you know on the course.
One of the highest ranking Democrats and House of Representatives.
Democrat of Maryland and idea as -- the -- -- -- having played Paul Ryan and these mock debates.
That Joseph Biden was preparing for.
It's fair to say you did better than the guy who was standing in plain Mitt Romney for.
You heard the split -- congress -- about how this debate when I'm pretty sure I think.
They gonna -- who you pick one but.
It almost doesn't matter -- it it.
-- Joseph Biden.
At least arrested this quarter the free -- of the people god ever since the Barack Obama today.
That was that was enough tonight right.
Well that's very important I mean I think what happened tonight was what you said but there's a reason for him -- the reason is that he made really clear.
The choice -- facing the American people tonight and as you were just discussing with Leo.
The problem with the Romney -- ticket is they keep making these general claims without backing them up with any of their specifics but there's the tax plan.
Where the voucher plan which they pretend won't do damage to the two seniors when we know.
-- it's designed to save Medicare money.
By passing greater cost tall onto seniors -- -- the whole idea is that.
Seniors we'll have to get a voucher that declines in value relative to rising health care cost that's how they save money for Medicare so.
These facts are coming out tonight.
They're saying there's just give them the freedom of choice and let people decide for themselves why do you automatically assume.
That's a negative.
-- don't think that's necessarily negative but we already have within the Medicare program the Medicare Advantage program which is a private insurance program within Medicare.
It is a reality we are now having to subsidize those private plans and a higher rate.
In the regular Medicare program and that's one of the changes that was made in the Affordable Care Act was to say we shouldn't be -- -- those private insurance companies.
Paul Ryan actually I've agreed with that but Mitt Romney reversed -- on that position which now means seniors will immediately.
Pay higher premiums in order to reinstate.
Higher well we know everyone's examining higher premiums right now maybe because of the conditions.
In the health -- -- that that called for good.
Goals coverage for everyone preexisting conditions bring you're older children and keeping on your policy.
Why is it a surprise the premiums went up as much as they did -- -- well I mean the reality is that -- -- would have gone up more without it.
Oh absolutely I mean all the projections we don't know what.
Well we we know that the rate of increase in premiums has been much slower.
Any time in the last sitting at the Kaiser Foundation -- the last fifteen year veteran says that -- we had a recession but this is in fifty years so.
The point is that.
-- between 2000.
Health insurance premiums double during that period of time so.
The rate of increase in premiums and actually gone down well on this -- appeared that went up 15% I mean you're not crowing about but I don't of course not but my point is they were actually went up less than projected and a lot less.
Then during we can.
You go back aboard but it's okay well do you see this -- -- do you think that.
The vice president.
Senate reminders about how the president should be next week that he delivered at least and it erupting in your face from my.
-- habits and what smirking and smiling interface that's as -- but but.
A -- to what the president.
Should be like and act like next week.
Well look Joseph Biden is Joseph Biden and President Obama is present Obama and I think that.
You're gonna see you know the president is going to address all these factual issues they may.
Have a dvds and erupt like that I ended and others get in Romney stay out all the -- that's not president hasn't made that look.
Joseph Biden is passionate about the middle class you know this is a working class kid from Scranton Pennsylvania.
He wants to make sure everybody gets a fair shot he speaker yeah are all right is that -- 120 minute sprint Pennsylvania has -- -- When they have percent well and good but in the question is what are you going to be be doing about -- -- that Joseph Biden pointed out.
They inherit an economy in free -- they helped turn things around and he pointed out that.
Paul Ryan himself had asked for some recovery money and specifically said in his letter word job creation in my -- -- gets good leaders should be.
What the president I sit it out.
I think the substance -- -- acting.
President could acting like your -- -- over this but I don't think first of law I don't I disagree with your characterization that the vice presidents that demeanor -- -- he was passionately and I don't know I thought that.
-- -- Above it all didn't -- -- look I I think the pat presents himself as acknowledged that -- he needs to engage more I think he's and that's really where.
They're on got to see -- more like Joseph Biden now what everybody has their own style and approach I mean look.
Everyone know ideal -- isn't an answer to the president well hello Joseph Joseph Biden as Joseph Biden.
And that in the -- I think will be really clear in drawing distinctions are congressman thank you very very much his own busy schedule we thinks we.
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