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A controversial piece of -- I hesitate to call -- that but will proceed.
Is back in New York City it's on display Andres Serrano is.
This Christ depicts Christ hanging a crucifix submerged in the artist's -- President Obama has condemned -- YouTube video of disrespecting.
But has remained silent on this artwork and -- paying out millions of Christians around the country.
Are some religions more well.
Of sensitivity and sensibility than others joining us tonight to discuss this and other issues as bill -- -- he's president of Catholic league.
And Karen Handel farmers Susan G.
Senior vice president -- were terrific new book.
The new book planned it boyhood.
Her -- the if you will do.
The war waged by Planned Parenthood.
Is Karen it's great to have you here builds great to have you here.
But let's start the let's start with this are working -- I'm gonna start with you.
What is your reaction to the idea that any one would do such.
What seems to me to be an obscenity today and not to put it in in religious terms of which would make it sacrilege.
But it's absolutely.
To put to put the word art next to what this news.
It's absolutely appalling it's beyond offensive and what makes it even.
More outrageous is the fact that our tax settlers -- anything to do with us that we have a president.
Do without and his apology tour.
Over the the video -- -- the Muslim faith but has said nothing about this which is so offensive to so many Americans.
OK I that you -- -- battle.
Over this and where are you with these people I mean you have you have condemned that you've criticized that you've done just about everything you.
And right -- at a press conference last night outside the gallery on 57 street.
I had to make basic complaints number one is the venue we're not talking about some dumped out -- SoHo or Chelsea.
This is high priced -- 57 street between fifth and sixth avenue.
They're bringing back something which they -- this with back in the late 1980s when so right about 151000 dollars the other at the time as you correctly pointed out.
The president and others have heightened sensitivity.
Two Muslim sensibilities when they're offended.
But nothing about us so people say to -- well what did you get all right well I ask people if you took -- -- depicted year old mother.
Had put her majority Europe should not be understood as above has a love letter they wouldn't let me into the -- -- last night.
I wanted to ask a lot of what about my ORC I I would honest also maybe a different kind of -- awful and I what -- here.
This is an example this is simply think this -- don't have any religion.
So the -- is -- this is the president -- -- President Obama I'm overjoyed to this president jar -- well let me say.
But to make -- -- -- it take on the top -- -- me just -- No its -- -- evidence belt too you know it's brown played out what they got the point OK I would -- to run help why can't I get a grant to.
If we controlled for inflation this is not be worth at least fifty grand today they got fifteen -- -- I get out of but in all serious -- these guys say aren't sensor for exercising my First Amendment right to freedom of speech simply for deploring -- They selectively would not allow the -- I think I know the real fashion store mitnick -- this of this is actually put on eBay -- make a -- well.
You might well but I think that is we -- -- say about free speech let it the best response to the speech that one does not apply.
Is more speech so -- best response to.
Bad art is more.
May I call this bad art.
But isn't much Magnum opus actually -- -- oldest of of -- into.
I don't know -- all right.
I you're being modest here yeah question I this is I think masterful are absolutely.
Karen what do you think do you think this is.
-- a compelling -- I don't.
Honestly this -- are not seen much to the head.
It's gonna -- them are like that before about what I what I will say is that this president it is just the height of the pop Percy.
And in his actions on this it's really deplorable.
And and the issue of religious preference and and and the religious sensible.
The president has steamrolled the entire nation.
When it comes to abortion when it comes to contraception.
When it comes through religious preference unless you happen to big -- senate bill.
And I'd like to know what you think care I mean unless -- happened -- -- Muslim are.
But we'll obviously but it -- What do you think.
Well I mean there's certain they're certainly and a tremendous double standard.
And know what I observe is that this president picks and chooses which religions he's gonna be supportive -- he showed absolutely no hesitation.
With his -- trampling rule.
To force religious organizations.
To cover contraception which was in direct.
Direct opposition of the -- teachings of the Catholic Church in many others and some other face as well.
But let me ask you this involvement.
It is we looked down at these polls are now one of the stunning.
It is polls is the pew research -- Which despite everything the of the conflict with the Catholic Church.
Art and -- -- President Obama leads governor Romney among Catholic voters according to the pew research poll.
Fifty Ford -- 39%.
That was conducted September 12 through the sixteenth.
Obviously in the week passed by the events and then Ghazi.
How do your report -- -- Pretty much my -- do have a doctorate in sociology studies every research it's becoming a sterile conversation.
Romney was up -- eight or nine points about a month ago right and Catholics remember what happened here with the reelection would Governor Walker.
It was a dead heat don't into the election he won by seven -- way no way not even within the margin of error so is this don't conversation about.
-- -- doubt of want to nobody fluctuates up and it's not it's not that liquid that it changes about 25 points -- one month aren't.
-- you're carrying -- on the phone while they work here.
The -- bottom.
-- reelection campaign is that there -- in trouble especially with the Catholic Church because they've got with with Catholic they've got a bunch of calls going out individual one on one calls going to people telling blatant lies.
About the president's position actually saying that the president does not support abortion.
Well folks he's the most extreme.
President on the abortion issue of any president this country has ever seen.
On -- frontier bright voices for reason and values Bill Donohue Karen Handel.
Up next angry look.