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Fight about whether or not women -- less than many as one of president Obama's pet platforms in the campaign watch less.
Son of a single mom proud father to daughters.
President Obama knows that women being paid 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same -- this man isn't just the -- It hurts payments -- the first law he signed the Lilly Ledbetter fair pay.
Helped ensure that women have paid this -- this man.
More because President Obama know.
Fairness for women -- News and Barack Obama and I approved this -- Far government says it is not quite as simple as that we crunched the numbers and found that some -- it.
Is because women often work fewer hours -- have been with the same employer for shorter period of time.
How big of a problem is this with me now to debate is democratic -- It -- mean morality Fox News contributor and author a backlash.
Ladies -- to both of you for joining us you know we have seen.
This debate rage -- over time and as you break down the numbers and as I watch these ads it strikes me -- a lot of cases.
Women have taken time off from work as we said not been with an -- -- or have chosen jobs.
So that they can work fewer hours -- be perhaps a primary care provider at home.
Not that that's fair or not that that makes any any better but it does have a lot to do is not exactly like they're both doctors.
Working in the same spot.
And the woman is making you know seventy cents on the dollar -- how do you respond to.
Actually that's not true even when you control for all those factors and you control for geography like you did in the last segment about where you live.
Your education not just -- what kind of education but what school all those factors.
Women always make less and in most cases it's 77 cents on the dollar.
I don't know one woman who at some point their career hasn't confronted the horrible reality that they are male colleagues and the same job was making more money than they -- and oh by the way when you add to with the fact that only of all the fortune 500 companies.
All they're only nineteen women CEOs six from the top 1000.
In the top ten.
When it doesn't happen at the top it certainly doesn't happen in the middle of the bottom eat it every woman knows they never make as much as the guy next to them.
-- what do you think about that because you know any -- you make the CEO argument I always feel like it's sort of falls apart because what it takes to become the CEO of a company is this relentless pursuit up to the top and you know a lot of people like myself have stopped to have children have work fewer hours a different points in time because you wanna be home more.
You know I I think it's it's it may or may not be right but there're there are reasons why there -- more men who becomes CEOs are gonna disagree you're right there -- -- reasons why people make different choices based on their needs and life but.
-- I don't believe government should be involved in setting the standard for -- salaries should be salaries should be based on the market and competition.
Now based on government and is and is very misleading because it's -- it's changing the -- -- fit their own debate for Obama he's -- the woman card.
First he played -- with health care now he's -- it with salaries and this case does at his very misleading because it's not comparing jobs.
Apples to apples when it comes to men and women.
You want to respond to that -- it.
-- you look at the facts you look at the sense it's that it it absolutely does that.
And here's why it matters when women make less at some point in their life they have the support themselves OK either because they're single by choice short boards or their spouse dies -- -- unable to support themselves and their their loved ones better the less you make every year the lesson retirement the -- -- here's -- debate and all EA -- -- in the defense is another issue who said that they don't even have the data than me to make this comparison.
This is why this that is very -- in leading it is in this MD and their.
People we we act as -- -- -- for 12 because you know everybody can kind of find -- had to prove what they want I mean that's that's one thing we sort of see along the way.
What is the benefit of having this sort of conversation I mean what Marion what do you think is positive that would come out of this other than.
You know once again sort of pitting one group of people against another.
What -- the value work in this country.
And that -- you need to value everybody's work -- man or woman you do the same job you should get -- the same amount of money.
That's what this country was founded on unfortunately that is not the reality out there.
Far too many women make less than their male counterparts so we talk about work.
And we talk about the great economic engine that is United States of America.
Every participant in the economy should be valued for who they are and the job they do not because they happen to be a woman or man yeah.
Creations are not based on gender are used to working HR you have the duties that are laid out the responsibilities.
And what experience issue need to bring to the table.
Governor shouldn't publish a -- and should not be setting the standards when it comes to.
The pay for men or women it should be market driven and this ad is very misleading because -- -- -- the wrong story to the American people okay.
We should always be fair.
Thanks thanks to both -- you guys for coming on -- debating that we appreciated it's an important point.
Thank you --